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What A Week! #48 - Ushu Mukelo

June 5, 2023

In this week's episode of "What A Week Podcast!," we have the privilege of hosting Ushu Mukelo, a remarkable individual who has experienced incredible challenges and triumphs in his life. Ushu, a refugee from the Democratic Republic of Congo, joins us to share his inspiring journey of resilience and hope. Fleeing his village in 1998 due to conflict and unrest, Ushu's story is a testament to the strength of the human spirit in the face of adversity. Tune in as he recounts the harrowing circumstan...

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[00:00:06 - 00:00:07] Speaker: I'm right


[00:00:07 - 00:00:11] Speaker: beside a hearts open fire will never tire.


[00:00:11 - 00:00:14] Speaker: We gonna come flying?


[00:00:16 - 00:00:20] Speaker: I will fly. Oh.


[00:00:23 - 00:00:24] Speaker: Like, did the station tell you?


[00:00:24 - 00:00:26] Speaker: You can't talk about certain stuff.


[00:00:26 - 00:00:28] Speaker: It was her mostly.


[00:00:28 - 00:00:30] Speaker: Hoo hoo. Her fancy.


[00:00:30 - 00:00:34] Speaker: She would text me all the time
and tell me I was wrong. Oh.


[00:00:37 - 00:00:37] Speaker: So this is a.


[00:00:37 - 00:00:38] Speaker: Whole big thing telling me.


[00:00:38 - 00:00:41] Speaker: Hey, just tuning in and heard you say.


[00:00:41 - 00:00:43] Speaker: I said something about my her culinary.


[00:00:43 - 00:00:45] Speaker: So, I you're not allowed to criticize.


[00:00:45 - 00:00:48] Speaker: And she's pay pays the more like she said.


[00:00:48 - 00:00:50] Speaker: I said on the air. Wait, what did you say?


[00:00:50 - 00:00:56] Speaker: I said, I said the more consultants
she pays, the more kickbacks she gets.


[00:00:57 - 00:00:57] Speaker: I mean.


[00:00:57 - 00:01:00] Speaker: That said, I wasn't allowed to say that.


[00:01:00 - 00:01:02] Speaker: And because it's not a fact,


[00:01:03 - 00:01:07] Speaker: I. History and history has told us
differently, right?


[00:01:07 - 00:01:07] Speaker: Yeah.


[00:01:07 - 00:01:12] Speaker: And, and it was the way I said it wasn't
that I actually said she did take them.


[00:01:12 - 00:01:15] Speaker: I kind of said, you know.


[00:01:15 - 00:01:16] Speaker: That's usually how it works.


[00:01:16 - 00:01:17] Speaker: That's how it works.


[00:01:17 - 00:01:20] Speaker: Yeah.


[00:01:22 - 00:01:23] Speaker: Oh. Well, if you want to get this.


[00:01:23 - 00:01:26] Speaker: One, this is why be careful
discussing people's cancer treatment.


[00:01:26 - 00:01:29] Speaker: For some people,
chemo is an absolute necessary.


[00:01:29 - 00:01:31] Speaker: How do we know that?


[00:01:31 - 00:01:33] Speaker: Well, isn't for some people,
chemo is not an.


[00:01:33 - 00:01:36] Speaker: That's a. Necessity. Right. Exactly.


[00:01:36 - 00:01:39] Speaker: And then I had mentioned that
I didn't take talks often.


[00:01:39 - 00:01:40] Speaker: She said that often saves lives.


[00:01:40 - 00:01:43] Speaker: Does it prove that to me
it also causes blood clots?


[00:01:45 - 00:01:50] Speaker: Then she started talking about her
situation and how it ran in her family.


[00:01:50 - 00:01:52] Speaker: And all this other stuff. And why.


[00:01:52 - 00:01:54] Speaker: Does she get why does her story.


[00:01:54 - 00:01:56] Speaker: Trumps my. Story?


[00:01:57 - 00:01:59] Speaker: Except she doesn't like that Trump ward.


[00:01:59 - 00:02:00] Speaker: Why is that?


[00:02:00 - 00:02:02] Speaker: Why is that


[00:02:02 - 00:02:04] Speaker: what why is it that like,
do you wanna start?


[00:02:04 - 00:02:05] Speaker: Yeah. Okay.


[00:02:05 - 00:02:07] Speaker: We don't have to do like an intro
or anything.


[00:02:07 - 00:02:09] Speaker: We just start talking
because we just. Yeah, yeah.


[00:02:09 - 00:02:10] Speaker: And you can curse.


[00:02:10 - 00:02:11] Speaker: Okay. Yeah.


[00:02:11 - 00:02:14] Speaker: You look like there's no rules here.


[00:02:14 - 00:02:16] Speaker: Like,
I think. I think there should be no rules.


[00:02:16 - 00:02:19] Speaker: I think that you should be able to talk
about whatever you want with the audience.


[00:02:19 - 00:02:20] Speaker: Decide. Oh my God.


[00:02:20 - 00:02:23] Speaker: I see I spent three years
of rules of like, you can't say that, and.


[00:02:24 - 00:02:27] Speaker: You're not. Allowed to say,
oh, yeah, I did.


[00:02:27 - 00:02:30] Speaker: Three years of
being told that I was wrong.


[00:02:31 - 00:02:34] Speaker: And I know and I was told
by other people there that they would


[00:02:34 - 00:02:38] Speaker: get those types of text messages, too,
and they would ignore them.


[00:02:38 - 00:02:39] Speaker: But I always.


[00:02:39 - 00:02:42] Speaker: Felt like I couldn't ignore them. Yeah.


[00:02:42 - 00:02:44] Speaker: So you were you were basically


[00:02:45 - 00:02:48] Speaker: not censored, but censored.


[00:02:49 - 00:02:49] Speaker: Well, I.


[00:02:49 - 00:02:51] Speaker: Don't want to go like that far
where it was like censored.


[00:02:51 - 00:02:52] Speaker: But you think that but.


[00:02:52 - 00:02:56] Speaker: Well, well, remember I started full time


[00:02:56 - 00:02:59] Speaker: right around the Covid deal.


[00:02:59 - 00:03:00] Speaker: Oh. Did you.


[00:03:00 - 00:03:03] Speaker: And I was working part time
during the Covid deal too.


[00:03:03 - 00:03:06] Speaker: So I was filling in
and there were a lot of things I was told


[00:03:06 - 00:03:10] Speaker: I wasn't allowed to say
about the masks being ridiculous,


[00:03:10 - 00:03:13] Speaker: which we now know
the masks were ridiculous.


[00:03:13 - 00:03:16] Speaker: And fortunately,
people are still walking around


[00:03:16 - 00:03:19] Speaker: thinking that those masks
protect them from something.


[00:03:19 - 00:03:21] Speaker: Yeah,


[00:03:21 - 00:03:23] Speaker: We knew that since 1917.


[00:03:23 - 00:03:26] Speaker: Well, yeah, we know for a long time.


[00:03:26 - 00:03:27] Speaker: Yeah, yeah, yeah.


[00:03:27 - 00:03:32] Speaker: So there is, you know, the vaccine,
which was not proven and not tested.


[00:03:32 - 00:03:34] Speaker: Yeah. Oh, it was the best thing ever.


[00:03:34 - 00:03:36] Speaker: When I talk to people
every day now that have,


[00:03:37 - 00:03:41] Speaker: lost loved ones after the vaccine from


[00:03:42 - 00:03:44] Speaker: randomly, you know, when


[00:03:44 - 00:03:47] Speaker: no warning suddenly, suddenly.


[00:03:47 - 00:03:47] Speaker: Don't you.


[00:03:47 - 00:03:50] Speaker: Know they call that sudden
adult death syndrome?


[00:03:50 - 00:03:51] Speaker: They coined it.


[00:03:51 - 00:03:53] Speaker: Do you remember that? Okay, yeah.


[00:03:53 - 00:03:56] Speaker: So there was like, all these
all these people were dying within, like,


[00:03:58 - 00:03:59] Speaker: died suddenly.


[00:03:59 - 00:04:01] Speaker: That's why it's, they say died suddenly.


[00:04:01 - 00:04:03] Speaker: And then all of a sudden
they release this thing


[00:04:03 - 00:04:05] Speaker: called sudden adult death syndrome.


[00:04:05 - 00:04:07] Speaker: It's in like the DSM five now.


[00:04:07 - 00:04:10] Speaker: And I've talked to people who now
also have to live with some maladies


[00:04:10 - 00:04:15] Speaker: that they've gotten since that
they attribute back to taking that short.


[00:04:15 - 00:04:16] Speaker: Why are people.


[00:04:16 - 00:04:18] Speaker: That was like I was against it.


[00:04:18 - 00:04:21] Speaker: I was against everything from the start
because, like, I wasn't.


[00:04:22 - 00:04:22] Speaker: So let me okay.


[00:04:22 - 00:04:25] Speaker: So I'll give you like
I've told this story before, but anyways,


[00:04:25 - 00:04:27] Speaker: I spent the first two weeks
like terrified of Covid, blah blah blah.


[00:04:27 - 00:04:28] Speaker: And then all of a sudden I was like,


[00:04:28 - 00:04:31] Speaker: wait a second, something's going on
and I don't know what's going on.


[00:04:31 - 00:04:35] Speaker: And I was like, instead of,
you know what happened?


[00:04:35 - 00:04:36] Speaker: I watched the,


[00:04:37 - 00:04:37] Speaker: I was


[00:04:37 - 00:04:40] Speaker: thinking to myself, in this,
in this cocooned moment.


[00:04:40 - 00:04:43] Speaker: Yeah, you know, two weeks
just flatten the curve.


[00:04:43 - 00:04:44] Speaker: I was like, what?


[00:04:44 - 00:04:46] Speaker: Why don't


[00:04:46 - 00:04:48] Speaker: who do I hate and why do I hate them?


[00:04:48 - 00:04:51] Speaker: And number one on my list was Trump.


[00:04:51 - 00:04:54] Speaker: And I went
and watched the full Charlottesville.


[00:04:54 - 00:04:57] Speaker: Good people on both sides
press conference.


[00:04:57 - 00:05:01] Speaker: And 90s before
he said good people's on both sides.


[00:05:01 - 00:05:04] Speaker: He said I disavow the white supremacists


[00:05:04 - 00:05:07] Speaker: and then like 15 seconds after he said
good people on both sides, he


[00:05:07 - 00:05:09] Speaker: goes, I'm not talking about the neo-Nazis
or the white nationalists.


[00:05:09 - 00:05:11] Speaker: They should be condemned in every form.


[00:05:11 - 00:05:13] Speaker: And I was like, Holy shit.


[00:05:13 - 00:05:16] Speaker: They told me that for three years.


[00:05:16 - 00:05:19] Speaker: And that's when I was like,
what is going on?


[00:05:19 - 00:05:22] Speaker: And then I was like,
okay, I can't trust what they tell me.


[00:05:22 - 00:05:23] Speaker: So I was watching.


[00:05:23 - 00:05:26] Speaker: I was watching full press conferences
from Richard Levine.


[00:05:27 - 00:05:29] Speaker: I was watching full press conferences.


[00:05:29 - 00:05:32] Speaker: I've lost, I have no I have no respect for
for terrible people.


[00:05:32 - 00:05:34] Speaker: Like, if you want to be called whatever
you want to be called, that's fine.


[00:05:34 - 00:05:37] Speaker: But if you hurt people, I'm not, I'm not,
I'm not.


[00:05:38 - 00:05:39] Speaker: Yeah. I'm not giving you the courtesy.


[00:05:39 - 00:05:43] Speaker: But you know, I think and I think that he,
that he, she hurt people and that really


[00:05:43 - 00:05:44] Speaker: bothers me.


[00:05:46 - 00:05:49] Speaker: My thoughts
on this were I was always afraid


[00:05:49 - 00:05:52] Speaker: that there was going to be
some kind of plague that took us all out.


[00:05:52 - 00:05:55] Speaker: You know, everybody,
you know. Right? Yeah.


[00:05:56 - 00:05:59] Speaker: And then when they first
started talking about it, I was thinking.


[00:05:59 - 00:06:02] Speaker: But we were told about, you know,


[00:06:03 - 00:06:06] Speaker: what was the thing that mosquitoes spread
whole area.


[00:06:06 - 00:06:07] Speaker: On the West Nile.


[00:06:07 - 00:06:07] Speaker: Yeah, yeah.


[00:06:07 - 00:06:08] Speaker: West Nile virus.


[00:06:08 - 00:06:11] Speaker: Every single year it's
the end of the world with West Nile virus.


[00:06:12 - 00:06:14] Speaker: Don't have buckets outside of water,
right? Yeah, yeah.


[00:06:14 - 00:06:17] Speaker: And how many mosquito bites did
we all get?


[00:06:17 - 00:06:18] Speaker: You know what I mean? All the time.


[00:06:18 - 00:06:20] Speaker: I mean. Thousands in. Northeast PA.


[00:06:20 - 00:06:21] Speaker: Yeah, yeah.


[00:06:21 - 00:06:22] Speaker: You know,


[00:06:22 - 00:06:24] Speaker: but we were told about
all these other things


[00:06:24 - 00:06:27] Speaker: that could have possibly taken us out,
and they did it.


[00:06:27 - 00:06:28] Speaker: So how can this


[00:06:29 - 00:06:31] Speaker: be the one?


[00:06:31 - 00:06:31] Speaker: Yeah.


[00:06:31 - 00:06:32] Speaker: And it had nothing.


[00:06:32 - 00:06:36] Speaker: You know, when they say now,
like your anti-Trump account or or Trump


[00:06:36 - 00:06:39] Speaker: or Trump stir is a anti-vaxxer.


[00:06:39 - 00:06:42] Speaker: He's the one who did. The.


[00:06:42 - 00:06:45] Speaker: Warp speed. Warp speed operation. Warp
speed? Yeah.


[00:06:45 - 00:06:47] Speaker: So this doesn't make sense.


[00:06:47 - 00:06:50] Speaker: It has nothing to do with him. It's
my wisdom and knowledge.


[00:06:50 - 00:06:52] Speaker: God gave us an immune system. Sure.


[00:06:52 - 00:06:56] Speaker: And I wonder why we have
so many autoimmune disorders today.


[00:06:56 - 00:06:58] Speaker: I wonder to next.


[00:06:58 - 00:07:01] Speaker: Year I. Wonder, I wonder.


[00:07:01 - 00:07:03] Speaker: You know why?


[00:07:03 - 00:07:06] Speaker: Because people are taking flu vaccines
every time the flu comes around,


[00:07:07 - 00:07:09] Speaker: every time they're being scared of okay.


[00:07:09 - 00:07:11] Speaker: And the flu similar.
Do you know how they're going to get it?


[00:07:11 - 00:07:13] Speaker: Do you know how that works?
I didn't realize how that works.


[00:07:13 - 00:07:16] Speaker: Did you ever hear
something called negative efficacy.


[00:07:16 - 00:07:19] Speaker: So this is this is how a doctor
explain it to me.


[00:07:19 - 00:07:24] Speaker: He goes he goes Australia
and America have opposite flu seasons.


[00:07:25 - 00:07:27] Speaker: So whatever happens in Australia
we kind of guess what


[00:07:27 - 00:07:29] Speaker: the strains are for America. Right.


[00:07:29 - 00:07:31] Speaker: So there's like seven flu strains.


[00:07:31 - 00:07:34] Speaker: He goes, so what we do is we'll do
like a bivalent or a trivalent vaccine,


[00:07:34 - 00:07:37] Speaker: which is like two strains
or three strains or quadrivalent,


[00:07:37 - 00:07:42] Speaker: which is four strains in one vaccine
that was never tested together.


[00:07:42 - 00:07:45] Speaker: He goes, but what happens is,
is that your immune response


[00:07:45 - 00:07:49] Speaker: to those four, it lowers the chances
of you getting those four strains.


[00:07:50 - 00:07:52] Speaker: But because it's looking
for those four strains, it's


[00:07:52 - 00:07:55] Speaker: ignoring the other strains
that you could be susceptible to.


[00:07:55 - 00:07:57] Speaker: So that's a negative efficacy.


[00:07:57 - 00:08:00] Speaker: So it'll it'll it'll decrease your chances
of getting the four by like 20%.


[00:08:00 - 00:08:03] Speaker: But it'll increase your chances
by getting the other ones by like 45%.


[00:08:04 - 00:08:07] Speaker: That's why when people are like, I got
my flu shot and I've never been sicker,


[00:08:08 - 00:08:09] Speaker: you know what I mean?


[00:08:09 - 00:08:13] Speaker: Like my mom, my mom hasn't
taken a shot in 30 years because she was


[00:08:13 - 00:08:16] Speaker: she got a flu shot
and was sick for six months.


[00:08:16 - 00:08:17] Speaker: Couldn't escape it.


[00:08:17 - 00:08:19] Speaker: Now, I have never gotten the flu shot.


[00:08:19 - 00:08:20] Speaker: I remember I.


[00:08:20 - 00:08:22] Speaker: I've never gotten a flu shot.
I had the flu


[00:08:22 - 00:08:25] Speaker: the last time I remember having it so bad,
like a terrible, terrible,


[00:08:27 - 00:08:28] Speaker: strain of the flu was.


[00:08:28 - 00:08:31] Speaker: 2006, maybe.


[00:08:31 - 00:08:32] Speaker: Yeah, yeah.


[00:08:32 - 00:08:33] Speaker: How do you say. I don't even know.


[00:08:33 - 00:08:37] Speaker: And since we're into 2025 now
and I don't know how.


[00:08:37 - 00:08:38] Speaker: Nobody knows.


[00:08:38 - 00:08:40] Speaker: I don't even know what year it is.


[00:08:40 - 00:08:41] Speaker: Right.


[00:08:41 - 00:08:44] Speaker: So, at any rate,
I was so sick I could barely.


[00:08:44 - 00:08:46] Speaker: My kids were small.
I couldn't even get off my couch.


[00:08:46 - 00:08:48] Speaker: My husband had to take a week off.


[00:08:48 - 00:08:50] Speaker: Work like I think.


[00:08:50 - 00:08:54] Speaker: I was sick for nine days straight was bad,
but I haven't had the flu since.


[00:08:55 - 00:08:56] Speaker: I mean,


[00:08:56 - 00:09:00] Speaker: it's kind of like
it when I saw the Brady Bunch episode.


[00:09:00 - 00:09:03] Speaker: With the measles, I'm like, what?
What are we doing?


[00:09:03 - 00:09:06] Speaker: You know, and I wonder because people are,
oh, if you don't get the vaccine,


[00:09:06 - 00:09:11] Speaker: every there's always going to be something
sure, it's not the measles.


[00:09:11 - 00:09:13] Speaker: What if it's cancer?


[00:09:13 - 00:09:15] Speaker: Now, as I told you,
they were experimenting.


[00:09:15 - 00:09:17] Speaker: With a live polio.


[00:09:17 - 00:09:20] Speaker: Virus to treat brain cancer.


[00:09:20 - 00:09:22] Speaker: What would that tell you?


[00:09:22 - 00:09:24] Speaker: I have no idea what it seems.


[00:09:24 - 00:09:24] Speaker: This is an experiment.


[00:09:24 - 00:09:28] Speaker: Again, God gives you wisdom, knowledge
and discernment


[00:09:28 - 00:09:31] Speaker: to figure things out
even without your doctor.


[00:09:32 - 00:09:35] Speaker: After your name.


[00:09:35 - 00:09:35] Speaker: How did you just.


[00:09:35 - 00:09:37] Speaker: Explain the flu vaccine to me?


[00:09:37 - 00:09:39] Speaker: They used the live flu virus.


[00:09:39 - 00:09:41] Speaker: Yeah, it's a live attenuated virus. Yeah.


[00:09:41 - 00:09:43] Speaker: So the polio vaccine.


[00:09:43 - 00:09:46] Speaker: Originally
at least was the live polio vaccine.


[00:09:47 - 00:09:50] Speaker: So if you're going to experiment
with a live


[00:09:50 - 00:09:54] Speaker: polio virus to treat a brain cancer,


[00:09:55 - 00:09:57] Speaker: maybe it's not brain cancer.


[00:09:57 - 00:09:58] Speaker: Maybe it's a new form of.


[00:09:58 - 00:10:01] Speaker: Polio because others.


[00:10:01 - 00:10:02] Speaker: Maybe. Maybe.


[00:10:02 - 00:10:06] Speaker: I'm just saying did we exchange.


[00:10:07 - 00:10:07] Speaker: I think.


[00:10:07 - 00:10:11] Speaker: Some cancers for like the means. Okay.


[00:10:11 - 00:10:12] Speaker: We don't see measles anymore.


[00:10:12 - 00:10:13] Speaker: I heard I heard somebody say one day,


[00:10:13 - 00:10:16] Speaker: if there's a name for the illness,
it's manmade.


[00:10:16 - 00:10:17] Speaker: And I'm.


[00:10:17 - 00:10:19] Speaker: And I was like, well, wait,
what does that mean?


[00:10:19 - 00:10:20] Speaker: And then you go, look, don't me, help me.


[00:10:20 - 00:10:23] Speaker: Thank God I got the water. Okay.


[00:10:24 - 00:10:27] Speaker: And what I've what
I've started to realize.


[00:10:27 - 00:10:28] Speaker: Is there a camera in here? Yeah.


[00:10:28 - 00:10:29] Speaker: Because I'm like, that's okay.


[00:10:29 - 00:10:32] Speaker: When I'm talking, it's on me.


[00:10:32 - 00:10:35] Speaker: What I started to realize was, it's like,
okay, there's


[00:10:35 - 00:10:40] Speaker: nobody who's going to advocate for you
more than you and doctors.


[00:10:40 - 00:10:42] Speaker: And this was the thing


[00:10:42 - 00:10:43] Speaker: that really fascinated me,
because there was people


[00:10:43 - 00:10:46] Speaker: like during Covid that like,
I really respected and trusted,


[00:10:47 - 00:10:50] Speaker: and I would tell them things
that they had no idea about.


[00:10:51 - 00:10:53] Speaker: And that really confused me.


[00:10:53 - 00:10:54] Speaker: I had a buddy, right?


[00:10:54 - 00:10:55] Speaker: He's a financial planner,


[00:10:55 - 00:10:58] Speaker: and he wanted to come on the podcast
like two years ago because he's like,


[00:10:58 - 00:11:01] Speaker: I think you're a conspiracy theorist
and we need to talk about stuff.


[00:11:01 - 00:11:03] Speaker: And I was like, okay, so he comes on,
we do like this.


[00:11:03 - 00:11:06] Speaker: Three he has a letter over there
from like the globalists.


[00:11:07 - 00:11:10] Speaker: He wrote like a letter that like
we were watching what you're doing.


[00:11:10 - 00:11:12] Speaker: Like it was it was in good humor.


[00:11:12 - 00:11:16] Speaker: And we had like this 3.5 hour conversation
with me and me and my buddy Dan.


[00:11:16 - 00:11:19] Speaker: And I said, I said,
I said, here's the thing,


[00:11:20 - 00:11:25] Speaker: because I was right about everything
and I don't I don't want to be.


[00:11:25 - 00:11:27] Speaker: I didn't want to be.


[00:11:27 - 00:11:29] Speaker: I'm like, but how do I figure it out?


[00:11:29 - 00:11:31] Speaker: I'm stupid.


[00:11:31 - 00:11:31] Speaker: I don't have a degree.


[00:11:31 - 00:11:33] Speaker: That's what I. Wonder sometimes too.


[00:11:33 - 00:11:35] Speaker: Like, how do we figure things out
without a degree?


[00:11:35 - 00:11:38] Speaker: That sometimes doctors would talk to me
and I'm like,


[00:11:38 - 00:11:39] Speaker: how does that make sense to you?


[00:11:39 - 00:11:42] Speaker: Because I know you're
trying to talk up here


[00:11:42 - 00:11:45] Speaker: with percentages and statistics
and maybe the.


[00:11:45 - 00:11:47] Speaker: But what you're saying
just doesn't make sense. Yeah.


[00:11:47 - 00:11:49] Speaker: So what
I forgot, I realized was it's like.


[00:11:50 - 00:11:53] Speaker: It's a it's a house of cards, right?


[00:11:53 - 00:11:56] Speaker: If you can fight,
if you can poke a hole in one thing


[00:11:56 - 00:12:00] Speaker: where people can't explain it, I think
the whole thing needs to be thrown out.


[00:12:00 - 00:12:00] Speaker: Right?


[00:12:00 - 00:12:03] Speaker: So it's like, you know, you and I,


[00:12:03 - 00:12:05] Speaker: you know,
have have been trying to have a sit down


[00:12:05 - 00:12:07] Speaker: for since you were on the,
since you're on the air.


[00:12:07 - 00:12:07] Speaker: Right.


[00:12:07 - 00:12:11] Speaker: And it's really nice now that like,
you don't have to worry about.


[00:12:11 - 00:12:15] Speaker: I don't ever want to worry about what
people don't like my opinion on something.


[00:12:15 - 00:12:20] Speaker: I sometimes I hesitate, put the stuff up
on Facebook because I don't want.


[00:12:23 - 00:12:25] Speaker: The friction.


[00:12:25 - 00:12:26] Speaker: You know what I mean?


[00:12:26 - 00:12:28] Speaker: I don't know if you've seen my Facebook
lately, but,


[00:12:28 - 00:12:31] Speaker: you know, well,
the whole Tylenol thing was ridiculous.


[00:12:31 - 00:12:32] Speaker: Like, let's just talk.


[00:12:32 - 00:12:33] Speaker: I couldn't help it.


[00:12:33 - 00:12:34] Speaker: Yeah, I approach that one too.


[00:12:34 - 00:12:37] Speaker: And all I did was posted
John Hopkins study


[00:12:37 - 00:12:40] Speaker: and then you get the other side
coming out and like, well,


[00:12:40 - 00:12:43] Speaker: just because it said this doesn't mean
that, well, there's a correlation.


[00:12:43 - 00:12:45] Speaker: So it's something
that you might want to be aware of.


[00:12:45 - 00:12:46] Speaker: Yeah. Okay.


[00:12:46 - 00:12:48] Speaker: How does that send you.


[00:12:48 - 00:12:52] Speaker: You're trying to save your family.


[00:12:52 - 00:12:53] Speaker: Sure.


[00:12:53 - 00:12:56] Speaker: Issues and and a long road ahead of you.


[00:12:56 - 00:13:01] Speaker: Why does it offend you so much
that this could be a possible cause?


[00:13:01 - 00:13:05] Speaker: Is it because you didn't know
and willingly


[00:13:05 - 00:13:08] Speaker: ingested something into your body?


[00:13:08 - 00:13:09] Speaker: Is it because.


[00:13:09 - 00:13:12] Speaker: You want it to be a.


[00:13:12 - 00:13:15] Speaker: Problem
that you have no control over at all,


[00:13:15 - 00:13:17] Speaker: so somebody else can take care of it?


[00:13:17 - 00:13:19] Speaker: Because that's really what we do
when we have problems with our sick,


[00:13:19 - 00:13:23] Speaker: with our health, we don't trust ourselves
because we don't have the PhD.


[00:13:24 - 00:13:27] Speaker: So we take our health


[00:13:27 - 00:13:30] Speaker: and we hear that to some man
we never met before in our lives.


[00:13:31 - 00:13:33] Speaker: Right? Oh, I trust this person.


[00:13:33 - 00:13:34] Speaker: You have no idea if they're if they're.


[00:13:34 - 00:13:36] Speaker: Snorting coke on a Friday night,
you have no.


[00:13:36 - 00:13:38] Speaker: Idea like what they're. Doing. You want.


[00:13:38 - 00:13:40] Speaker: And it's something
that totally breaks my heart.


[00:13:42 - 00:13:43] Speaker: And at the risk of my


[00:13:43 - 00:13:47] Speaker: sister seeing this,
I'm going to say it out loud, okay?


[00:13:47 - 00:13:49] Speaker: Okay. Because I shouldn't have to worry
about offending my sister.


[00:13:49 - 00:13:49] Speaker: I lost my.


[00:13:49 - 00:13:51] Speaker: Niece last year,


[00:13:51 - 00:13:53] Speaker: in May of a year ago.


[00:13:53 - 00:13:56] Speaker: This past year, we were talking about it
when I was hanging out with you.


[00:13:56 - 00:13:59] Speaker: She had colorectal cancer spread to her
liver and lungs upon diagnosis.


[00:14:00 - 00:14:01] Speaker: First of all, we'll never know why
she had that.


[00:14:01 - 00:14:03] Speaker: She did not take the Covid vaccine,
but she did.


[00:14:03 - 00:14:06] Speaker: Take the HPV vaccine.
She was 28 years old.


[00:14:06 - 00:14:07] Speaker: We did a whole podcast.


[00:14:07 - 00:14:08] Speaker: On HPV vaccine. Yeah,


[00:14:08 - 00:14:12] Speaker: the only saves are from like five strains
and there's 250 some strains of it.


[00:14:12 - 00:14:15] Speaker: And we now just have to see,


[00:14:15 - 00:14:17] Speaker: billboards that say.


[00:14:17 - 00:14:19] Speaker: It. Saves lives or whatever.


[00:14:19 - 00:14:21] Speaker: It's I have a family member


[00:14:21 - 00:14:25] Speaker: who's absolutely convinced that the HPV
vaccine gave three autoimmune illnesses,


[00:14:26 - 00:14:28] Speaker: absolutely
convinced they were healthy as a horse.


[00:14:28 - 00:14:31] Speaker: And then two weeks after their HPV
vaccine, they got real sick.


[00:14:31 - 00:14:35] Speaker: Sent I don't know, it's China traced back
to when my niece actually got sick.


[00:14:35 - 00:14:37] Speaker: Might be a little difficult.


[00:14:37 - 00:14:39] Speaker: It did turn out in the end
to be an aggressive cancer.


[00:14:39 - 00:14:42] Speaker: But it did it
start start being an aggressive cancer.


[00:14:42 - 00:14:44] Speaker: I also. Think that.


[00:14:44 - 00:14:47] Speaker: They're too quick in 2025 now


[00:14:47 - 00:14:51] Speaker: to just die or prescribe.


[00:14:52 - 00:14:56] Speaker: And maybe you can buy it over the counter
now birth control birth control


[00:14:57 - 00:14:59] Speaker: is not for everyone. No. Okay.


[00:14:59 - 00:15:01] Speaker: Well some people
it should be double dosed.


[00:15:01 - 00:15:04] Speaker: But I telling.


[00:15:04 - 00:15:07] Speaker: But but it's why they take you off the.


[00:15:10 - 00:15:12] Speaker: It's not healthy


[00:15:12 - 00:15:15] Speaker: to take that into your body.


[00:15:15 - 00:15:16] Speaker: It could cause blood clots.


[00:15:16 - 00:15:20] Speaker: There's a lot of things
that the birth control pill can cause.


[00:15:20 - 00:15:23] Speaker: And you wonder if there's like an uptick
in cervical cancers and all those


[00:15:24 - 00:15:26] Speaker: types of cancers as well. Yes.


[00:15:26 - 00:15:29] Speaker: Could it be
because so many people has been on


[00:15:29 - 00:15:33] Speaker: birth control,
some longer than they should be? Yes.


[00:15:33 - 00:15:36] Speaker: The whole thing I always thought
when they had the Depo-Provera shot,


[00:15:36 - 00:15:39] Speaker: if your body is supposed to naturally
be doing something,


[00:15:40 - 00:15:44] Speaker: it cannot be good for your body
to stop it from doing.


[00:15:44 - 00:15:45] Speaker: That is disgusting.


[00:15:45 - 00:15:48] Speaker: Oh, it's so disgusting
that women get their period.


[00:15:48 - 00:15:50] Speaker: It's natural. It's supposed to happen.


[00:15:50 - 00:15:52] Speaker: It happens for a reason. Yes.


[00:15:52 - 00:15:55] Speaker: If you look at the results are too good
to have the period of bleed.


[00:15:55 - 00:15:55] Speaker: If you look at.


[00:15:55 - 00:15:58] Speaker: The world and like this beautiful thing
because I think the world is beautiful.


[00:16:00 - 00:16:01] Speaker: It's totally not


[00:16:01 - 00:16:04] Speaker: like my wife is pretty cranky
for a week, but, like, you know what?


[00:16:04 - 00:16:05] Speaker: You know what you know?


[00:16:05 - 00:16:08] Speaker: You know what the end result of
that is a baby.


[00:16:08 - 00:16:09] Speaker: You know what I mean?


[00:16:09 - 00:16:11] Speaker: Like, every time, like,
we can't wait to have kids.


[00:16:11 - 00:16:12] Speaker: But, like,


[00:16:12 - 00:16:16] Speaker: every time I talk to somebody who's,
like, a good person and not a psycho,


[00:16:16 - 00:16:17] Speaker: they're like kids.


[00:16:17 - 00:16:20] Speaker: You have no idea how much like it changes
everything.


[00:16:20 - 00:16:23] Speaker: And then, like, in a good way.
Not in a bad way.


[00:16:23 - 00:16:24] Speaker: Yeah. Your life, you.


[00:16:24 - 00:16:27] Speaker: Have to, you know, change your schedule
a little bit, but. Like.


[00:16:27 - 00:16:29] Speaker: It brings you so much joy.


[00:16:29 - 00:16:31] Speaker: We're going to have to talk about that.
In a little. Okay.


[00:16:31 - 00:16:32] Speaker: It does.


[00:16:32 - 00:16:35] Speaker: And it's it's
so like I was never having kids at 28


[00:16:35 - 00:16:37] Speaker: if I said I didn't have kids by 27,
I was never having kids.


[00:16:37 - 00:16:40] Speaker: Now I have two. I wanted 32 one and 34.


[00:16:40 - 00:16:44] Speaker: But I was saying my my niece had
passed away and my enemy interrupted.


[00:16:44 - 00:16:44] Speaker: I'm sorry.


[00:16:44 - 00:16:47] Speaker: But my sister kept saying the doctor.


[00:16:47 - 00:16:48] Speaker: Really cared about her.


[00:16:49 - 00:16:51] Speaker: He really he seemed to care about her.


[00:16:51 - 00:16:53] Speaker: Like he didn't help her.


[00:16:53 - 00:16:56] Speaker: She went to Un-pc,


[00:16:56 - 00:16:58] Speaker: in liver failure


[00:16:58 - 00:17:01] Speaker: because she was going to Geisinger.


[00:17:02 - 00:17:03] Speaker: Geisinger kept telling.


[00:17:03 - 00:17:06] Speaker: Her that she had IBS.


[00:17:06 - 00:17:07] Speaker: It was kind of in her head.


[00:17:07 - 00:17:10] Speaker: It was a anxiety problem.


[00:17:10 - 00:17:12] Speaker: And she said, no, no,
there's something else.


[00:17:12 - 00:17:14] Speaker: They didn't


[00:17:14 - 00:17:17] Speaker: give her.


[00:17:17 - 00:17:18] Speaker: I call Skippy.


[00:17:18 - 00:17:21] Speaker: They should have the the pa.


[00:17:21 - 00:17:24] Speaker: Pa pa that she was supposed to see,


[00:17:24 - 00:17:26] Speaker: or what she was saying
because she never seen the doctor.


[00:17:26 - 00:17:27] Speaker: You know where I'm. At that
you can never see.


[00:17:27 - 00:17:29] Speaker: The doctor can only see the pa.


[00:17:29 - 00:17:31] Speaker: The PA


[00:17:31 - 00:17:34] Speaker: said to her,


[00:17:34 - 00:17:37] Speaker: well, I'm just going to have to get you
a colonoscopy, like in.


[00:17:37 - 00:17:39] Speaker: A threatening sort of way,
but never scheduled.


[00:17:39 - 00:17:40] Speaker: One. Okay.


[00:17:40 - 00:17:41] Speaker: All right.


[00:17:41 - 00:17:43] Speaker: She moved down to Mechanicsburg,


[00:17:43 - 00:17:47] Speaker: ends up at umpc in the emergency room
because her legs.


[00:17:47 - 00:17:50] Speaker: Now, this kid was toothpick
thin, tiny little thing.


[00:17:50 - 00:17:52] Speaker: All right, just four foot eight.


[00:17:52 - 00:17:55] Speaker: Tiny. Cute, And beautiful girl.


[00:17:55 - 00:17:56] Speaker: Yeah. All right.


[00:17:57 - 00:17:58] Speaker: But her legs are swollen.


[00:17:58 - 00:17:58] Speaker: Her boyfriend.


[00:17:58 - 00:18:01] Speaker: Now, now, mind you,
this is a girl whose other.


[00:18:01 - 00:18:04] Speaker: She had a boyfriend
five years ago, died of brain cancer.


[00:18:04 - 00:18:05] Speaker: Oh, my gosh.


[00:18:05 - 00:18:10] Speaker: So here she is now, settling into a new
boyfriend, and we don't know, and I don't.


[00:18:10 - 00:18:13] Speaker: We'll never. Know, but. But for God.


[00:18:13 - 00:18:15] Speaker: You know, and I think God is good
no matter what.


[00:18:15 - 00:18:17] Speaker: Yeah, yeah, God is good.


[00:18:17 - 00:18:19] Speaker: We don't belong on this planet.


[00:18:19 - 00:18:20] Speaker: You know what I mean?


[00:18:20 - 00:18:21] Speaker: It doesn't make sense.


[00:18:21 - 00:18:24] Speaker: There's something more after this
and this.


[00:18:24 - 00:18:29] Speaker: These are the things that really make me
believe, She,


[00:18:30 - 00:18:31] Speaker: Swarm legs.


[00:18:31 - 00:18:34] Speaker: Yeah. Swollen legs. And she.


[00:18:34 - 00:18:37] Speaker: That was my song.


[00:18:38 - 00:18:38] Speaker: Okay.


[00:18:38 - 00:18:41] Speaker: Sorry. It's okay.
Do you want to answer that?


[00:18:41 - 00:18:43] Speaker: Hold on. Let's answer the podcast.


[00:18:43 - 00:18:45] Speaker: Yes, honey, I got your text message.


[00:18:46 - 00:18:47] Speaker: Okay?


[00:18:47 - 00:18:49] Speaker: I was in the middle doing a podcast.


[00:18:49 - 00:18:52] Speaker: I'll call you back. All right.


[00:18:52 - 00:18:54] Speaker: Now? Yeah, I'm going there to order.


[00:18:54 - 00:18:55] Speaker: Okay. He's so hungry.


[00:18:55 - 00:18:57] Speaker: I know he's. Hungry. Starving.


[00:18:57 - 00:18:58] Speaker: In the podcast.


[00:18:58 - 00:19:01] Speaker: I'm doing a podcast. Honey, I love you.


[00:19:01 - 00:19:01] Speaker: Oh, my.


[00:19:01 - 00:19:03] Speaker: Gosh, I'll tell you later.


[00:19:03 - 00:19:06] Speaker: I love you, honey.


[00:19:06 - 00:19:07] Speaker: Taking over.


[00:19:07 - 00:19:09] Speaker: He he really should. Be on the radio.


[00:19:09 - 00:19:11] Speaker: You think he's funny?


[00:19:11 - 00:19:13] Speaker: He's funny.
Kid. My 21 year old. Well, we have to.


[00:19:13 - 00:19:14] Speaker: We have to first.


[00:19:14 - 00:19:17] Speaker: We have to teach him podcast etiquette. I.


[00:19:18 - 00:19:19] Speaker: Yes we do.


[00:19:19 - 00:19:22] Speaker: Okay,
let me just turn my phone down. Okay.


[00:19:22 - 00:19:24] Speaker: That way.


[00:19:24 - 00:19:25] Speaker: I still have a.


[00:19:25 - 00:19:26] Speaker: Daughter that could be calling me.


[00:19:26 - 00:19:29] Speaker: Well, if any emergencies,
just keep an eye out for any emergencies.


[00:19:29 - 00:19:31] Speaker: I know, I never know.


[00:19:31 - 00:19:33] Speaker: Okay, now you're making me.
Want to turn it back up because it's a.


[00:19:33 - 00:19:36] Speaker: Little is the littlest. Volume
you'll be able to hear.


[00:19:37 - 00:19:39] Speaker: So anyway, so what?


[00:19:39 - 00:19:40] Speaker: You said she's in Mechanicsburg.


[00:19:40 - 00:19:41] Speaker: She goes to Umpc.


[00:19:41 - 00:19:44] Speaker: Umpc pretty much told them that they were
just going to do palliative care.


[00:19:44 - 00:19:46] Speaker: That's the end of life.


[00:19:46 - 00:19:49] Speaker: Yeah, we're going to give her
chemo and radiation,


[00:19:49 - 00:19:50] Speaker: but it was pretty much palliative.


[00:19:50 - 00:19:53] Speaker: There was nothing they could do
for upon diagnosis.


[00:19:54 - 00:19:57] Speaker: In the meantime, they had another doctor
that somebody knew that got them in


[00:19:57 - 00:20:02] Speaker: touch with that did immunotherapy,
who started watching her.


[00:20:02 - 00:20:04] Speaker: But she wasn't eligible for me
in a therapy.


[00:20:04 - 00:20:06] Speaker: All right. Why.


[00:20:06 - 00:20:09] Speaker: But this doctor saw that they were going
to put a colostomy bag on her,


[00:20:10 - 00:20:13] Speaker: and said no, stop,
because that would probably end


[00:20:13 - 00:20:16] Speaker: her life sooner if you went in
and did that invasive surgery.


[00:20:16 - 00:20:18] Speaker: He wanted to take over.


[00:20:20 - 00:20:20] Speaker: In my


[00:20:20 - 00:20:24] Speaker: eyes, he did the palliative care
that they were going to do without.


[00:20:24 - 00:20:27] Speaker: The colostomy bag.


[00:20:27 - 00:20:28] Speaker: Did she have a better quality life?


[00:20:28 - 00:20:31] Speaker: Do we get a couple more months, maybe.


[00:20:32 - 00:20:33] Speaker: But what else.


[00:20:33 - 00:20:36] Speaker: Did you do to help her?


[00:20:36 - 00:20:40] Speaker: Because we I did have her talking
to somebody about eating properly.


[00:20:40 - 00:20:42] Speaker: Like we're doing. There's a dinner.


[00:20:42 - 00:20:46] Speaker: I did a doctor's night for myself, and I'm
still here nine years later, right?


[00:20:46 - 00:20:49] Speaker: When I was diagnosed and pretty much told
I was going to die.


[00:20:49 - 00:20:52] Speaker: So I am still here.


[00:20:52 - 00:20:53] Speaker: All right.


[00:20:53 - 00:20:55] Speaker: I had to talk to the same person,
Donald Labar Donald Globacom.


[00:20:55 - 00:20:56] Speaker: Look her up.


[00:20:56 - 00:20:57] Speaker: Love her.


[00:20:57 - 00:21:00] Speaker: Okay.


[00:21:01 - 00:21:03] Speaker: She was talking to Donna.


[00:21:03 - 00:21:06] Speaker: I had her doing hyperbaric
oxygen treatments.


[00:21:06 - 00:21:08] Speaker: Okay. Yeah.


[00:21:08 - 00:21:09] Speaker: And this was.


[00:21:09 - 00:21:11] Speaker: So she was diagnosed
right before father's Day.


[00:21:13 - 00:21:13] Speaker: I don't even know.


[00:21:13 - 00:21:16] Speaker: Here it is again. So it's. 2025.
So she died.


[00:21:16 - 00:21:19] Speaker: She died in 2024. It was 2023.


[00:21:19 - 00:21:22] Speaker: She was diagnosed
right before Father's Day.


[00:21:23 - 00:21:26] Speaker: So of course,
we're jumping into mushrooms.


[00:21:26 - 00:21:28] Speaker: The the mushroom. Yeah.


[00:21:28 - 00:21:30] Speaker: Like reishi and. Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
All those.


[00:21:30 - 00:21:31] Speaker: Lion's mane, like.


[00:21:31 - 00:21:33] Speaker: All the lion's mane. Yeah.


[00:21:33 - 00:21:36] Speaker: I know people that make the tinctures,
you know, butter, butter.


[00:21:36 - 00:21:39] Speaker: Those got her apricot seeds and stuff.


[00:21:39 - 00:21:41] Speaker: That is. Proof.
I take three uppercut seeds a day.


[00:21:41 - 00:21:44] Speaker: We all should probably be doing that.
And I do iodine.


[00:21:44 - 00:21:45] Speaker: Why do a bunch of shit? But yeah.


[00:21:45 - 00:21:47] Speaker: No, I seriously like.


[00:21:47 - 00:21:49] Speaker: Yeah, yeah, we were talking about man.


[00:21:49 - 00:21:50] Speaker: We'll talk about that later.


[00:21:50 - 00:21:52] Speaker: So it. Anyway,
and she was looking healthier.


[00:21:52 - 00:21:55] Speaker: Color came back. She was looking good.


[00:21:55 - 00:21:57] Speaker: But the doctors. Never reinforce that.


[00:21:58 - 00:22:01] Speaker: And here you want to get you know,
we live in an instant society.


[00:22:01 - 00:22:01] Speaker: Yeah.


[00:22:01 - 00:22:03] Speaker: So she kind of was like,
I'm miss my Starbucks.


[00:22:03 - 00:22:06] Speaker: Coffee or I, you know,
I want my life. Processed sugar.


[00:22:06 - 00:22:07] Speaker: And yeah.


[00:22:07 - 00:22:08] Speaker: So she started


[00:22:08 - 00:22:11] Speaker: kind of doing that all that stuff
even though you tried to talk about it.


[00:22:11 - 00:22:13] Speaker: And there's sold off to the world.


[00:22:13 - 00:22:15] Speaker: There's sold off to this world.


[00:22:15 - 00:22:18] Speaker: So she kind of gave up on it.


[00:22:18 - 00:22:19] Speaker: Doing all that stuff.


[00:22:19 - 00:22:22] Speaker: Because it wasn't being reinforced.


[00:22:22 - 00:22:26] Speaker: There's certain things
like she was eligible to do,


[00:22:27 - 00:22:29] Speaker: it's some kind of new liver treatment
that they were going to do.


[00:22:29 - 00:22:32] Speaker: Now, her mind you,
she was liver failure in the colon.


[00:22:32 - 00:22:34] Speaker: They said colorectal cancer
spread to her liver and lots.


[00:22:37 - 00:22:38] Speaker: Heal the liver,


[00:22:38 - 00:22:40] Speaker: heal the rest of the body.


[00:22:40 - 00:22:41] Speaker: Yeah. We've all heard that. Yeah.


[00:22:41 - 00:22:45] Speaker: They wouldn't treat the liver
because it was colorectal cancer.


[00:22:45 - 00:22:48] Speaker: So they had to treat the colorectal cancer
first.


[00:22:49 - 00:22:52] Speaker: Now again not a doctor but


[00:22:52 - 00:22:54] Speaker: why wouldn't you even try to treat liver.


[00:22:54 - 00:22:57] Speaker: Because that was the reachable.
One that you could actually.


[00:22:57 - 00:23:00] Speaker: Do something about and then work
the rest of the way and do these cancer


[00:23:00 - 00:23:05] Speaker: cells really say, oh,
I belong to the colon, I can't hear. You.


[00:23:05 - 00:23:06] Speaker: That's what they say.


[00:23:06 - 00:23:09] Speaker: This doesn't it doesn't make sense to me.


[00:23:09 - 00:23:12] Speaker: You know, a week before.


[00:23:13 - 00:23:14] Speaker: The week she passed.


[00:23:14 - 00:23:16] Speaker: Away, the week she passed away.


[00:23:16 - 00:23:20] Speaker: They told her she was eligible
for this new experimental treatment.


[00:23:22 - 00:23:24] Speaker: Treating the liver first.


[00:23:24 - 00:23:26] Speaker: For. Your Nikki.


[00:23:26 - 00:23:27] Speaker: And by the time they were going to do a.


[00:23:27 - 00:23:30] Speaker: She was too weak at this point
for them to travel,


[00:23:31 - 00:23:34] Speaker: not knowing if she could actually do it,
like without doing the plan.


[00:23:34 - 00:23:35] Speaker: Her immune systems crashed.


[00:23:35 - 00:23:40] Speaker: So three days before, I think it was the.


[00:23:42 - 00:23:43] Speaker: Teleconference they were


[00:23:43 - 00:23:46] Speaker: going to do, she passed away.


[00:23:46 - 00:23:49] Speaker: So they didn't even tell her
about these other options


[00:23:49 - 00:23:52] Speaker: that were out there
until right before she died.


[00:23:52 - 00:23:55] Speaker: And she died a week before Mother's Day.


[00:23:55 - 00:23:57] Speaker: I'm going to tell you, I'm
going to tell you a crazy cancer story.


[00:23:57 - 00:24:00] Speaker: So my mom had.


[00:24:03 - 00:24:05] Speaker: Two two of her brothers.


[00:24:05 - 00:24:08] Speaker: Diagnosed, three of her brothers
diagnosed with cancer in the same month.


[00:24:08 - 00:24:10] Speaker: And they live in separate
parts of the country.


[00:24:10 - 00:24:13] Speaker: One was in Minnesota,
one was in Red line, Pennsylvania.


[00:24:13 - 00:24:16] Speaker: Then it was in Santa Fe,
New Mexico, right.


[00:24:17 - 00:24:19] Speaker: So let me, let me let me back that up.


[00:24:19 - 00:24:23] Speaker: About nine months before that, my dad,
one of his best friends,


[00:24:23 - 00:24:25] Speaker: was diagnosed with cancer. Right.


[00:24:25 - 00:24:28] Speaker: And this is like 2021.


[00:24:28 - 00:24:30] Speaker: And I'm starting to go down
rabbit holes of all this stuff.


[00:24:30 - 00:24:31] Speaker: You've ever heard of Joe Tip-ins


[00:24:32 - 00:24:32] Speaker: okay, so


[00:24:32 - 00:24:36] Speaker: Joe Tip-ins so Joe Tip-ins
is this guy who I saw


[00:24:36 - 00:24:40] Speaker: like a 62nd video of him
talking right to the camera,


[00:24:40 - 00:24:44] Speaker: saying that like he was
he was diagnosed with stage


[00:24:44 - 00:24:47] Speaker: four metastasized cancer
all over his body.


[00:24:47 - 00:24:50] Speaker: And they gave him
less than a 1% chance of living.


[00:24:50 - 00:24:52] Speaker: And he found out about this doctor
at Merck


[00:24:52 - 00:24:55] Speaker: Animal Labs who was,


[00:24:56 - 00:24:58] Speaker: she was working with cancer mice


[00:24:58 - 00:25:01] Speaker: and the cancer mice came down
with intestinal parasites.


[00:25:01 - 00:25:03] Speaker: And he goes, she does what? Every normal.


[00:25:03 - 00:25:05] Speaker: It's in the zoos, it's in everywhere.


[00:25:05 - 00:25:07] Speaker: They give him
this medicine, called them Bender's All,


[00:25:07 - 00:25:11] Speaker: and she goes, well, two weeks later,
they're all there.


[00:25:11 - 00:25:14] Speaker: They don't have intestinal parasites
and they don't have cancer.


[00:25:14 - 00:25:16] Speaker: So the next day he starts on this
from benders.


[00:25:16 - 00:25:17] Speaker: All right.


[00:25:17 - 00:25:19] Speaker: Regimen and within like three months,


[00:25:20 - 00:25:22] Speaker: he's cancer free


[00:25:22 - 00:25:23] Speaker: and I.


[00:25:23 - 00:25:26] Speaker: So I hear this story and I'm like,
this can't be real.


[00:25:26 - 00:25:28] Speaker: Like this is insane, right?


[00:25:28 - 00:25:32] Speaker: We're we're we've been conditioned
to think that none of this stuff is real.


[00:25:32 - 00:25:35] Speaker: So I. I know my dad's distraught.


[00:25:35 - 00:25:37] Speaker: I send him all this information.


[00:25:37 - 00:25:40] Speaker: I went and did all the research on
and I'm like, Holy shit, this is real.


[00:25:40 - 00:25:41] Speaker: And I send it all the way.


[00:25:41 - 00:25:45] Speaker: And I said, forward it down,
forward it to him and see what he says.


[00:25:45 - 00:25:48] Speaker: Well,
I think my dad thought I was a quack.


[00:25:48 - 00:25:49] Speaker: He never sent it.


[00:25:49 - 00:25:52] Speaker: So nine months later,
my mother's three brothers get diagnosed.


[00:25:52 - 00:25:54] Speaker: I remember they're in Florida,
they're in Fort Myers, Florida.


[00:25:54 - 00:25:56] Speaker: My mom calls me, she's hysterical,


[00:25:56 - 00:25:59] Speaker: and I'm like, I'm
going to send you something crazy,


[00:25:59 - 00:26:02] Speaker: and I need you to look at it
and discern for yourself.


[00:26:02 - 00:26:04] Speaker: Make up your mind.


[00:26:04 - 00:26:06] Speaker: I said,
if you don't believe me, don't send it.


[00:26:06 - 00:26:09] Speaker: But if you think there's something there,
if the


[00:26:09 - 00:26:13] Speaker: if the option is and death,
you do whatever you can the.


[00:26:13 - 00:26:15] Speaker: And exactly.


[00:26:15 - 00:26:17] Speaker: He sends it. So my mom calls me.


[00:26:17 - 00:26:20] Speaker: She goes, your fucking father
sitting next to me.


[00:26:20 - 00:26:21] Speaker: What are you watching?


[00:26:21 - 00:26:24] Speaker: And she goes, I'm
watching what Marty sent me.


[00:26:24 - 00:26:26] Speaker: And he goes, oh,
he sent me that like nine months ago.


[00:26:26 - 00:26:28] Speaker: And she looked at him
and she goes. This is real.


[00:26:29 - 00:26:31] Speaker: So that day.


[00:26:31 - 00:26:33] Speaker: He finally sends it to his buddy.


[00:26:33 - 00:26:37] Speaker: Ironically, his buddy has an oncology
appointment the next morning, right?


[00:26:38 - 00:26:42] Speaker: But he goes into the oncologist,
gets looked at, and he goes,


[00:26:43 - 00:26:47] Speaker: what about this bend is all stuff
the oncologist says to him,


[00:26:48 - 00:26:50] Speaker: oh yeah, we were playing with that stuff
about like ten years ago.


[00:26:50 - 00:26:53] Speaker: But they said it really didn't
do anything. So they. Said.


[00:26:53 - 00:26:57] Speaker: And he goes, don't
you think you should have given that to me


[00:26:57 - 00:27:00] Speaker: at the beginning?


[00:27:01 - 00:27:03] Speaker: Three months later he's dead.


[00:27:03 - 00:27:06] Speaker: Like why what what are we doing.


[00:27:07 - 00:27:08] Speaker: And we're scaring people.


[00:27:08 - 00:27:10] Speaker: We're delivering a spirit of fear.


[00:27:10 - 00:27:12] Speaker: Now explain that to me. This.


[00:27:12 - 00:27:16] Speaker: Well 365 times in the Bible God tells us.


[00:27:16 - 00:27:17] Speaker: Not to fear.


[00:27:17 - 00:27:18] Speaker: Do not fear.


[00:27:18 - 00:27:21] Speaker: 306 nine ever counted than myself.


[00:27:21 - 00:27:22] Speaker: But there's a lot of times in that Bible.


[00:27:22 - 00:27:26] Speaker: Yeah, and they'll tell you
one for each day of the week down here.


[00:27:27 - 00:27:28] Speaker: The spirit of fear is you


[00:27:28 - 00:27:31] Speaker: talk right over, you tell people you
it runs in your family.


[00:27:31 - 00:27:34] Speaker: It's genetic.
So I talk to people every day.


[00:27:34 - 00:27:37] Speaker: Well, runs in my family,
so I have to go get checked.


[00:27:37 - 00:27:40] Speaker: They already gave you the fear
before you were diagnosed?


[00:27:41 - 00:27:42] Speaker: Yeah. They feel like they're already dead.


[00:27:42 - 00:27:46] Speaker: And then when they diagnose you,
they continue to drill the fear into you.


[00:27:46 - 00:27:49] Speaker: At the end of the day,
when I was diagnosed


[00:27:49 - 00:27:54] Speaker: and I realized they were trying to sell me
a 33% chance that it might return


[00:27:55 - 00:27:57] Speaker: against the 70.


[00:27:57 - 00:28:01] Speaker: Some may think it was 33% 67.


[00:28:01 - 00:28:03] Speaker: Do the math,
I can't. It's been a long weekend.


[00:28:03 - 00:28:04] Speaker: Yeah, 60.


[00:28:04 - 00:28:05] Speaker: Then it wouldn't return.


[00:28:05 - 00:28:08] Speaker: Why am I betting on


[00:28:08 - 00:28:12] Speaker: the smaller number
instead of betting on the bigger number?


[00:28:12 - 00:28:14] Speaker: Yeah, that it wouldn't return.


[00:28:14 - 00:28:18] Speaker: And there's so much
that they don't even bother to tell you


[00:28:18 - 00:28:22] Speaker: that you really need
to use your brain to figure out.


[00:28:23 - 00:28:25] Speaker: So they want you to be scared. Well,
it doesn't turn.


[00:28:25 - 00:28:28] Speaker: Out right for people when they do this
well, and we.


[00:28:28 - 00:28:29] Speaker: Don't take it.


[00:28:29 - 00:28:31] Speaker: If you don't take and they talk.


[00:28:31 - 00:28:35] Speaker: To you like this doctor in Scranton
that diagnosed me


[00:28:36 - 00:28:39] Speaker: when she came back from Germany
after a trip.


[00:28:39 - 00:28:43] Speaker: Held my hand and said to me, this cancer's


[00:28:43 - 00:28:47] Speaker: probably been in your body for five years.


[00:28:48 - 00:28:51] Speaker: It's probably already spread.


[00:28:51 - 00:28:55] Speaker: And if it went here and you're pointing at
my liver, lungs, you're dead.


[00:28:57 - 00:28:59] Speaker: Wow. And what?


[00:28:59 - 00:29:00] Speaker: Oh, yeah. You take that.


[00:29:00 - 00:29:05] Speaker: Like now, my dad's mother
did die of a breast cancer.


[00:29:06 - 00:29:10] Speaker: That there was no lump, my breast cancer
that I was being the breast cancer I was.


[00:29:10 - 00:29:12] Speaker: I don't own that word.


[00:29:12 - 00:29:15] Speaker: Don't tell me I never
I mean, I would never say


[00:29:15 - 00:29:18] Speaker: I had cancer,
I was diagnosed with I never owned it.


[00:29:18 - 00:29:20] Speaker: That's one number
one thing you need. To do if.


[00:29:20 - 00:29:21] Speaker: They want you to own it.


[00:29:21 - 00:29:25] Speaker: Every commercial
you see on TV for any disease any more.


[00:29:25 - 00:29:28] Speaker: My diabetes. My. That's my. That.


[00:29:28 - 00:29:28] Speaker: All right?


[00:29:28 - 00:29:31] Speaker: It's not yours.
You know you don't want it.


[00:29:31 - 00:29:34] Speaker: Why do you claim that it is yours
if you didn't want it in the first place?


[00:29:35 - 00:29:36] Speaker: Why are you saying that?


[00:29:36 - 00:29:36] Speaker: It's yours?


[00:29:36 - 00:29:37] Speaker: You know what I mean?


[00:29:37 - 00:29:40] Speaker: Yeah, it drives me. In a bad mindset.


[00:29:40 - 00:29:41] Speaker: Yeah.


[00:29:41 - 00:29:44] Speaker: But also like
I said 365 times in the Bible.


[00:29:44 - 00:29:46] Speaker: Yeah. No fear, no fear.


[00:29:46 - 00:29:47] Speaker: What is the world doing.


[00:29:47 - 00:29:49] Speaker: They're trying to scare you.


[00:29:49 - 00:29:52] Speaker: These TV commercials
with all the symptoms to everything.


[00:29:53 - 00:29:54] Speaker: You can have every disease on the planet.


[00:29:54 - 00:29:57] Speaker: Now they tell you.
Not to Google your symptoms.


[00:29:57 - 00:30:00] Speaker: They'll just give them to you
on on the commercial.


[00:30:00 - 00:30:01] Speaker: Yeah. You know.


[00:30:01 - 00:30:02] Speaker: Do you have this you have that whatever.


[00:30:02 - 00:30:05] Speaker: And they want you to own that stuff.


[00:30:05 - 00:30:08] Speaker: And they're also trying to sell you
the medications


[00:30:08 - 00:30:11] Speaker: before you even get to the doctor
or get diagnosed.


[00:30:11 - 00:30:15] Speaker: I have this theory that they decided,
like the the street corner drug dealer


[00:30:15 - 00:30:16] Speaker: was making too much money.


[00:30:16 - 00:30:18] Speaker: So let's just make it in the pharmacies
when you're living.


[00:30:18 - 00:30:20] Speaker: Because we can make more money. Yeah.


[00:30:20 - 00:30:21] Speaker: This way.


[00:30:21 - 00:30:22] Speaker: Yeah, right.


[00:30:22 - 00:30:24] Speaker: And they just want you to be scared.


[00:30:24 - 00:30:27] Speaker: So I am just.


[00:30:27 - 00:30:30] Speaker: I wouldn't take that. Like I was scared.


[00:30:30 - 00:30:31] Speaker: Okay. Sure. Everybody is.


[00:30:31 - 00:30:32] Speaker: I just happens.


[00:30:32 - 00:30:33] Speaker: I told you about my.


[00:30:33 - 00:30:36] Speaker: Niece's boyfriend. Had died. Yeah.


[00:30:36 - 00:30:38] Speaker: In 2017. He died.


[00:30:40 - 00:30:42] Speaker: Him and I shared a birthday.


[00:30:42 - 00:30:47] Speaker: Which is October 3rd coming up, I, I.


[00:30:51 - 00:30:54] Speaker: Was 46 and he was 23.


[00:30:54 - 00:30:57] Speaker: This was his fourth year of his battle.


[00:30:57 - 00:31:00] Speaker: So I got to tell you what the most freeing
feeling in the world is.


[00:31:01 - 00:31:04] Speaker: The night that that doctor said
that to me, I went out on my front porch


[00:31:05 - 00:31:08] Speaker: and I said, who am I to be ungrateful for?


[00:31:08 - 00:31:13] Speaker: 46 years of life, pretty much
had a fantastic 46 years of life.


[00:31:14 - 00:31:16] Speaker: I had a great career.


[00:31:16 - 00:31:18] Speaker: I had two kids.


[00:31:18 - 00:31:20] Speaker: I was it like.


[00:31:20 - 00:31:21] Speaker: I can't complain.


[00:31:21 - 00:31:23] Speaker: My parents were normal people.


[00:31:23 - 00:31:24] Speaker: You know what I mean?


[00:31:24 - 00:31:25] Speaker: Who am I to be ungrateful?


[00:31:25 - 00:31:27] Speaker: I am so grateful.


[00:31:27 - 00:31:29] Speaker: God, I said to,


[00:31:29 - 00:31:31] Speaker: this is yours.


[00:31:31 - 00:31:32] Speaker: It is your will, not mine.


[00:31:32 - 00:31:34] Speaker: Whatever you're going to do with
this. You're going to tell


[00:31:35 - 00:31:38] Speaker: and I'm okay.


[00:31:38 - 00:31:40] Speaker: At that very moment, I heard


[00:31:40 - 00:31:44] Speaker: this is not the type of cancer you have,
but you will be a blessing to others.


[00:31:45 - 00:31:48] Speaker: Heard it plain as day


[00:31:48 - 00:31:51] Speaker: turn to like in my house and I'm like,
you must be in denial.


[00:31:51 - 00:31:54] Speaker: You have to be in denial.


[00:31:54 - 00:31:57] Speaker: And then I realized two seconds later is


[00:31:59 - 00:32:02] Speaker: that was your voice
you'd be planning your funeral.


[00:32:02 - 00:32:03] Speaker: You'd be putting.


[00:32:03 - 00:32:06] Speaker: That playlist together,
the songs that were going to play.


[00:32:06 - 00:32:08] Speaker: That was not your voice.


[00:32:08 - 00:32:10] Speaker: Okay, what do I do next?


[00:32:10 - 00:32:13] Speaker: I shared my story out on Facebook
because, like, working in radio.


[00:32:14 - 00:32:17] Speaker: Yeah, I had a lot of friends on Facebook.


[00:32:17 - 00:32:20] Speaker: And even if it was, you know,
so I just, I but I was


[00:32:20 - 00:32:21] Speaker: I hesitant to share it because.


[00:32:21 - 00:32:23] Speaker: I wouldn't
talk to anybody like that was my.


[00:32:23 - 00:32:24] Speaker: Plan.


[00:32:24 - 00:32:27] Speaker: Nobody's going to know that I got this
diagnosis.


[00:32:27 - 00:32:28] Speaker: I'm just going to deal with it. Yeah,


[00:32:29 - 00:32:31] Speaker: I shared it in a way that I.


[00:32:31 - 00:32:33] Speaker: Never wanted anybody to say
that they were sorry for me.


[00:32:33 - 00:32:34] Speaker: Right?


[00:32:34 - 00:32:38] Speaker: Because, listen, people get stuff
every day, all right?


[00:32:38 - 00:32:41] Speaker: There's all different kinds of diagnosis.


[00:32:41 - 00:32:43] Speaker: Right? Yeah. So.


[00:32:43 - 00:32:45] Speaker: So this just happens to be cancer.


[00:32:45 - 00:32:48] Speaker: And personally wasn't a heart attack.


[00:32:48 - 00:32:49] Speaker: It didn't take me right out.


[00:32:49 - 00:32:51] Speaker: I'm what you know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah.


[00:32:51 - 00:32:54] Speaker: There are things that happen


[00:32:54 - 00:32:54] Speaker: to make that.


[00:32:54 - 00:32:58] Speaker: Long story short,
as I was posting on Facebook.


[00:32:58 - 00:33:01] Speaker: Through my journey, I had people
come to me afterwards saying to me,


[00:33:01 - 00:33:04] Speaker: I wish I had the faith you have.


[00:33:06 - 00:33:07] Speaker: And people still want me.


[00:33:07 - 00:33:10] Speaker: I used to do Facebook lives at one point,
want me to do Facebook lives because.


[00:33:10 - 00:33:14] Speaker: I just want to encourage
people, yeah, you know that


[00:33:15 - 00:33:16] Speaker: you don't have to let the


[00:33:16 - 00:33:20] Speaker: world scare you because something's
going to happen someday.


[00:33:20 - 00:33:21] Speaker: You know what I mean?


[00:33:21 - 00:33:25] Speaker: Just just the he's with you through it
and every step of the way.


[00:33:26 - 00:33:30] Speaker: God confirmed what I was doing in ways
that would make your head spin.


[00:33:31 - 00:33:33] Speaker: There's a couple days later,
I'm standing in front of my TV


[00:33:33 - 00:33:35] Speaker: because you guess
you're going to be scared.


[00:33:35 - 00:33:38] Speaker: Sure, it's a natural response.


[00:33:39 - 00:33:42] Speaker: So I sit there going,
I don't know what I'm so worried about.


[00:33:42 - 00:33:45] Speaker: I get in my car every day going 81.


[00:33:45 - 00:33:46] Speaker: What am my life, my hands.


[00:33:46 - 00:33:49] Speaker: All I have to do is leave my house.


[00:33:50 - 00:33:53] Speaker: I never really watch TV,
but there will be TV on in the background.


[00:33:53 - 00:33:55] Speaker: I was standing in my living room, 16 was.


[00:33:55 - 00:33:56] Speaker: On and.


[00:33:56 - 00:33:57] Speaker: The news was on. For those.


[00:33:57 - 00:33:59] Speaker: Who don't know, that's Wnep.


[00:33:59 - 00:34:01] Speaker: Do they pay you?


[00:34:01 - 00:34:04] Speaker: I wish no, I don't know if I take the
really whole town again, take their money.


[00:34:04 - 00:34:06] Speaker: They don't pay well,
so don't worry about it.


[00:34:06 - 00:34:09] Speaker: I'm an anymore. They I'm good at anyway.


[00:34:11 - 00:34:14] Speaker: There was a new story about a man
at that very moment.


[00:34:14 - 00:34:17] Speaker: Like, what are the chances
of all this happening?


[00:34:17 - 00:34:19] Speaker: New story about a man in Williamsport.


[00:34:19 - 00:34:22] Speaker: Who went to close his bedroom
window on the second floor.


[00:34:24 - 00:34:26] Speaker: Tree falls during a storm,


[00:34:26 - 00:34:29] Speaker: hits his house
right at that angle and takes him out.


[00:34:30 - 00:34:32] Speaker: He he died. Really?


[00:34:32 - 00:34:34] Speaker: And I'm like, I get it.


[00:34:34 - 00:34:36] Speaker: You sustain me always.


[00:34:36 - 00:34:38] Speaker: God, you sustain me always.


[00:34:38 - 00:34:41] Speaker: I don't even have to leave my house.
Right?


[00:34:41 - 00:34:45] Speaker: You don't live every day in fear
no matter what you do.


[00:34:45 - 00:34:48] Speaker: I remember there is a time
when it is a parking lot and,


[00:34:48 - 00:34:51] Speaker: you know, being a smoker,
sometimes you throw your cigaret


[00:34:51 - 00:34:54] Speaker: away.


[00:34:54 - 00:34:55] Speaker: Can we go have one and know?


[00:34:55 - 00:34:56] Speaker: Yeah.


[00:34:56 - 00:34:58] Speaker: Once I get the exhaust in here, we can go.


[00:34:58 - 00:35:02] Speaker: And I'll tell you later
why I, haven't quit smoking.


[00:35:03 - 00:35:04] Speaker: It's because nicotine is good for you.


[00:35:04 - 00:35:05] Speaker: Well, there.


[00:35:05 - 00:35:08] Speaker: Is the health value and the attack on.


[00:35:08 - 00:35:11] Speaker: The more they attack something, the better
it might be for you.


[00:35:11 - 00:35:12] Speaker: That's been my news.


[00:35:12 - 00:35:14] Speaker: My my new thing. It's like.
Oh, they're against that.


[00:35:14 - 00:35:17] Speaker: I said before that
because they are so wrong.


[00:35:18 - 00:35:19] Speaker: Seriously.


[00:35:20 - 00:35:21] Speaker: Wait, can I.


[00:35:21 - 00:35:24] Speaker: Can I can I know. You like, oh,
he loves me.


[00:35:24 - 00:35:25] Speaker: So here's what.


[00:35:25 - 00:35:26] Speaker: I want to know.


[00:35:26 - 00:35:29] Speaker: Like, I once saw a poll
that was done where they asked


[00:35:29 - 00:35:33] Speaker: people their biggest fears,
and number two was death.


[00:35:33 - 00:35:36] Speaker: And number one was public speaking.


[00:35:36 - 00:35:38] Speaker: Public speaking? Yes.


[00:35:38 - 00:35:41] Speaker: So I always thought like,
if I could be okay publicly


[00:35:41 - 00:35:43] Speaker: with like sharing, like whatever.


[00:35:43 - 00:35:44] Speaker: Yeah, death is nothing to me.


[00:35:44 - 00:35:46] Speaker: And it would be, it would be.


[00:35:46 - 00:35:49] Speaker: And now that I'm like, oh, it might be
something beautiful, who knows.


[00:35:49 - 00:35:52] Speaker: What what what allowed you to like,


[00:35:52 - 00:35:53] Speaker: you can't.


[00:35:53 - 00:35:55] Speaker: There's a lot of people that.
Listen to. You, like, what's it.


[00:35:55 - 00:35:58] Speaker: Like to put yourself out there,
and why would you decide to do that?


[00:35:59 - 00:36:02] Speaker: I was 14 years old
when I started in the business.


[00:36:02 - 00:36:03] Speaker: Getting everything.


[00:36:03 - 00:36:05] Speaker: My whole entire life has been bad for God,


[00:36:06 - 00:36:07] Speaker: you know what I'm saying?


[00:36:07 - 00:36:11] Speaker: Yeah, because I didn't plan anything
this way.


[00:36:12 - 00:36:14] Speaker: I used to be the pain in the ass.


[00:36:14 - 00:36:14] Speaker: They called the radio.


[00:36:14 - 00:36:18] Speaker: Stations requesting songs,
but I would keep the DJs on the sound.


[00:36:19 - 00:36:20] Speaker: But they offended me.


[00:36:20 - 00:36:23] Speaker: I mean, I made a lot of friends.


[00:36:23 - 00:36:25] Speaker: I called a lemon Bloomsburg.


[00:36:25 - 00:36:28] Speaker: I had a station in my town in Berwick.


[00:36:29 - 00:36:33] Speaker: And it was a small Am station, 1984


[00:36:34 - 00:36:36] Speaker: 1984. It which doesn't.


[00:36:36 - 00:36:38] Speaker: Say you wanna see something funny.
You're wearing. A shirt.


[00:36:38 - 00:36:39] Speaker: This is 1984.


[00:36:39 - 00:36:42] Speaker: Oh, my gosh, is not in is.


[00:36:44 - 00:36:45] Speaker: That is too.


[00:36:45 - 00:36:47] Speaker: But that's too funny. Yeah.


[00:36:47 - 00:36:50] Speaker: Oh my gosh. So,


[00:36:51 - 00:36:52] Speaker: and it was in the, station.


[00:36:52 - 00:36:54] Speaker: That's a country station.


[00:36:54 - 00:36:57] Speaker: They were losing a lot of talent.


[00:36:57 - 00:36:59] Speaker: On Am to FM now.


[00:36:59 - 00:37:02] Speaker: FM was fairly new in 1984.


[00:37:03 - 00:37:04] Speaker: I didn't know that. Yeah.


[00:37:04 - 00:37:07] Speaker: And I think
what day cares he go on the air.


[00:37:08 - 00:37:09] Speaker: I think it was the early 80s wasn't. It.


[00:37:09 - 00:37:12] Speaker: It was the early 80s.


[00:37:12 - 00:37:15] Speaker: But a lot of the good talent
was still working on the Am stations.


[00:37:15 - 00:37:16] Speaker: Okay.


[00:37:16 - 00:37:18] Speaker: Until this FM thing took off.


[00:37:18 - 00:37:20] Speaker: You know what I mean?


[00:37:20 - 00:37:23] Speaker: So here I am, a little town, Berwick


[00:37:23 - 00:37:26] Speaker: little radio station,
and I would call this guy all the time.


[00:37:26 - 00:37:30] Speaker: Sometimes I would go down and,
put records away for them or whatever.


[00:37:32 - 00:37:33] Speaker: No, I didn't start doing that


[00:37:33 - 00:37:36] Speaker: until after I called him and he said.


[00:37:37 - 00:37:38] Speaker: Will you quit calling me already


[00:37:38 - 00:37:41] Speaker: and go get your working papers
and come here and work?


[00:37:42 - 00:37:45] Speaker: So I asked my parents,
they let me go get my working day


[00:37:45 - 00:37:49] Speaker: papers and Sunday mornings
I started running the God Squad


[00:37:49 - 00:37:52] Speaker: because college kids weren't getting up


[00:37:52 - 00:37:56] Speaker: right on a Sunday morning
to run the church services. The.


[00:37:56 - 00:37:58] Speaker: But God bless my career.


[00:37:58 - 00:38:01] Speaker: Like I can't even tell. You.


[00:38:01 - 00:38:03] Speaker: My first very first paycheck
from this radio station.


[00:38:03 - 00:38:04] Speaker: I bought a Bible.


[00:38:04 - 00:38:05] Speaker: Really?


[00:38:05 - 00:38:09] Speaker: Now, if you think about
I had a 40 year career.


[00:38:09 - 00:38:11] Speaker: No, I didn't make tons of money.


[00:38:12 - 00:38:14] Speaker: But people know.


[00:38:14 - 00:38:15] Speaker: Me. Yeah.


[00:38:15 - 00:38:17] Speaker: Not that it's all about that.


[00:38:17 - 00:38:19] Speaker: You know, people pleasing
isn't what it's all, but I'm glad.


[00:38:19 - 00:38:22] Speaker: I'm grateful for.


[00:38:22 - 00:38:25] Speaker: Every moment of it, you know?


[00:38:25 - 00:38:26] Speaker: And there are people that hate me.


[00:38:26 - 00:38:30] Speaker: Of course, there was always going
to be sure, but I worked beer in Berwick.


[00:38:30 - 00:38:33] Speaker: I worked at Bloomsburg for a little bit.


[00:38:33 - 00:38:36] Speaker: CNR in Bloomsburg,
which was a country station.


[00:38:36 - 00:38:39] Speaker: You can't spell rancid without CNR.


[00:38:39 - 00:38:40] Speaker: Well, you can't spell country without CNR.


[00:38:40 - 00:38:42] Speaker: Was there anything?


[00:38:42 - 00:38:45] Speaker: You can't spell country without CNR,
but you can't spell rancid either.


[00:38:47 - 00:38:50] Speaker: Because remember, this is back in the day
when most country music was very,


[00:38:50 - 00:38:52] Speaker: very twangy. Yeah. You know.


[00:38:52 - 00:38:53] Speaker: And my joke.


[00:38:53 - 00:38:57] Speaker: Was, country music
kind of grows on you like MOS.


[00:38:57 - 00:39:00] Speaker: Yeah, it's pre Garth Brooks pre, all that.


[00:39:00 - 00:39:02] Speaker: Yeah. Seriously.


[00:39:02 - 00:39:04] Speaker: And that's the music. The country music.


[00:39:04 - 00:39:07] Speaker: As I listen to country music
now I'd rather prefer to listen to it


[00:39:07 - 00:39:10] Speaker: because most country music today
sounds like the Starland Vocal Band


[00:39:10 - 00:39:13] Speaker: do an afternoon. Delight
over and over again.


[00:39:13 - 00:39:15] Speaker: Yeah, it also add to me
it sounds overly manufactured.


[00:39:15 - 00:39:16] Speaker: Yeah, yeah.


[00:39:16 - 00:39:17] Speaker: It sounds generic.


[00:39:17 - 00:39:19] Speaker: It doesn't sound. There's
no soul to it. No.


[00:39:19 - 00:39:22] Speaker: You know what I like now I like music
that I people go what kind of music.


[00:39:22 - 00:39:25] Speaker: Like I said I like music that you can play
on a porch without an amplifier.


[00:39:25 - 00:39:26] Speaker: There you go.


[00:39:26 - 00:39:27] Speaker: I like. That. Oh.


[00:39:27 - 00:39:29] Speaker: Now you ask me what kind of music I like.


[00:39:29 - 00:39:30] Speaker: Now, what


[00:39:31 - 00:39:32] Speaker: a gospel.


[00:39:32 - 00:39:35] Speaker: I know
Jack Williams is one of my favorites.


[00:39:35 - 00:39:36] Speaker: Okay?


[00:39:36 - 00:39:39] Speaker: He's like, I do like,
but a lot of the Christian music,


[00:39:40 - 00:39:42] Speaker: the new Christian music is.


[00:39:42 - 00:39:43] Speaker: They're getting heavy.


[00:39:43 - 00:39:46] Speaker: I notice that the Christian music,
it's pretty rocky.


[00:39:46 - 00:39:48] Speaker: Some of it, though, all sounds like to.


[00:39:48 - 00:39:49] Speaker: You know, totally. Yeah.


[00:39:49 - 00:39:51] Speaker: It's like one big long song.


[00:39:51 - 00:39:53] Speaker: So I do like old gospel hymns.


[00:39:53 - 00:39:58] Speaker: And one of the things I did
in the beginning of my career was to do it


[00:39:58 - 00:40:01] Speaker: was Sunday in the country
on WMR, the Am station


[00:40:01 - 00:40:05] Speaker: in Tunkhannock, and yeah, okay.


[00:40:05 - 00:40:08] Speaker: Yeah, it was an station in Tunkhannock,
WMR and let's mountains radio.


[00:40:09 - 00:40:10] Speaker: Okay.


[00:40:10 - 00:40:10] Speaker: I know that it's.


[00:40:10 - 00:40:13] Speaker: Sunday in the country and I played hymns.


[00:40:13 - 00:40:15] Speaker: You know, here
I was, I was like that at that point.


[00:40:15 - 00:40:18] Speaker: I was 18, 19 years old. Like I was young.


[00:40:18 - 00:40:20] Speaker: You know,
playing hymns on a Sunday morning.


[00:40:20 - 00:40:21] Speaker: Which is like unheard of today.


[00:40:21 - 00:40:25] Speaker: But it was Dolly Parton doing
gospel music, Ricky Van Shelton,


[00:40:26 - 00:40:29] Speaker: like does and an amazing version of.


[00:40:29 - 00:40:32] Speaker: Old Rugged Cross, you know,


[00:40:33 - 00:40:35] Speaker: One like
that, I would play a lot of Elvis gospel.


[00:40:35 - 00:40:38] Speaker: I love that stuff. It's so good.


[00:40:38 - 00:40:41] Speaker: But right now on my Spotify, I will


[00:40:41 - 00:40:47] Speaker: if I'm not listening to Wfpl or WGN,


[00:40:48 - 00:40:51] Speaker: which is our two religious stations
in our area.


[00:40:51 - 00:40:54] Speaker: I'm listening
to Zach Williams on my Spotify.


[00:40:54 - 00:40:57] Speaker: Which is really weird because I'm
the girl who used to host lesbian


[00:40:57 - 00:41:00] Speaker: sex talk on the bear on Thursday nights,
but you.


[00:41:00 - 00:41:03] Speaker: Had lesbian sex talk.
What is that? I'm the. Bear.


[00:41:03 - 00:41:05] Speaker: What is that? You don't.


[00:41:05 - 00:41:08] Speaker: People would still drive by my house
and scream.


[00:41:09 - 00:41:10] Speaker: Nicki from the bear!


[00:41:10 - 00:41:13] Speaker: I remember the bear,
but I don't remember lesbian sex talk.


[00:41:13 - 00:41:14] Speaker: What year?


[00:41:14 - 00:41:17] Speaker: What the. What would you talk about?


[00:41:17 - 00:41:20] Speaker: So, Spanky, our promotions director


[00:41:20 - 00:41:23] Speaker: at the time, since we used to pretend
to be a lesbian on the air.


[00:41:23 - 00:41:25] Speaker: And I'm like,
I grew up, you know, this one?


[00:41:25 - 00:41:27] Speaker: I grew up, I grew up, I'm playing hymns.


[00:41:29 - 00:41:29] Speaker: Well, the funny.


[00:41:29 - 00:41:32] Speaker: Thing, the funny thing about that was.


[00:41:35 - 00:41:38] Speaker: It was back in the day when,


[00:41:39 - 00:41:40] Speaker: Okay.


[00:41:40 - 00:41:42] Speaker: I can't even when it was,
you know, it was cool.


[00:41:42 - 00:41:43] Speaker: You know?


[00:41:43 - 00:41:43] Speaker: Yeah.


[00:41:43 - 00:41:46] Speaker: It wasn't like I deserved
special treatment.


[00:41:46 - 00:41:46] Speaker: Yeah.


[00:41:46 - 00:41:49] Speaker: I think, and I was like.


[00:41:50 - 00:41:52] Speaker: Although if you were you,
if you grew up around here,


[00:41:52 - 00:41:53] Speaker: you don't want
people think you were lesbian.


[00:41:53 - 00:41:55] Speaker: You know what I mean? Right?


[00:41:55 - 00:41:57] Speaker: So I'm like, I grew up around here.
I'm not going to pretend to be a lesbian.


[00:41:57 - 00:42:00] Speaker: Yeah, yeah, a couple days later,
some girl calls me up.


[00:42:00 - 00:42:02] Speaker: That was a lesbian to request the song.


[00:42:02 - 00:42:05] Speaker: And she told me, you like it because
people call you and just start talking.


[00:42:05 - 00:42:07] Speaker: You. And I said, hey, I have an idea.


[00:42:07 - 00:42:08] Speaker: Why come to the studio on Thursday night?


[00:42:08 - 00:42:11] Speaker: We'll just start talking about sex
and we'll call it lesbian sex.


[00:42:11 - 00:42:13] Speaker: Talk to mind.


[00:42:13 - 00:42:14] Speaker: Yeah. She's like, yeah, that sounds cool.


[00:42:14 - 00:42:15] Speaker: Let's do it.


[00:42:15 - 00:42:17] Speaker: You know?
And so that way that's how that's.


[00:42:17 - 00:42:18] Speaker: How it started. Yeah.


[00:42:18 - 00:42:21] Speaker: So I'm like okay. Like inside.
So I'm not pretending I'm a lesbian.


[00:42:21 - 00:42:23] Speaker: I just have other women come in.


[00:42:23 - 00:42:26] Speaker: And then I would have strippers come in.


[00:42:26 - 00:42:27] Speaker: But wasn't that around the time.


[00:42:27 - 00:42:30] Speaker: When there was, like it was Doctor
Drew and Adam Corolla?


[00:42:30 - 00:42:31] Speaker: Love line and.


[00:42:31 - 00:42:34] Speaker: No, that was like before
because the bear we didn't.


[00:42:34 - 00:42:36] Speaker: Or did we run that after midnight?


[00:42:36 - 00:42:37] Speaker: I don't remember.


[00:42:37 - 00:42:39] Speaker: Because.
Line was always like late, late at night.


[00:42:39 - 00:42:44] Speaker: My show was supposed to be on from seven
till midnight, and there were nights that.


[00:42:44 - 00:42:46] Speaker: You did a five hour lesbian sex talk.


[00:42:46 - 00:42:46] Speaker: What I would do


[00:42:46 - 00:42:50] Speaker: so I would you play the music,
and in between the music, we would talk.


[00:42:50 - 00:42:52] Speaker: And yes, I was more talk than rock.


[00:42:52 - 00:42:55] Speaker: You know, you you know, okay, I.


[00:42:55 - 00:42:57] Speaker: I got away with somehow.


[00:42:57 - 00:42:59] Speaker: So that's what
scissoring is. Here's Steppenwolf.


[00:43:03 - 00:43:04] Speaker: I and.


[00:43:04 - 00:43:06] Speaker: I had. Such a great run and.


[00:43:06 - 00:43:08] Speaker: I had such a great career.
I wouldn't trade it for the world.


[00:43:08 - 00:43:11] Speaker: And I was given freedom
that they don't give people anymore.


[00:43:12 - 00:43:13] Speaker: Why did they take that away?


[00:43:13 - 00:43:15] Speaker: Let's see. Okay, first of all,


[00:43:15 - 00:43:18] Speaker: you can't play requests
because some people


[00:43:18 - 00:43:21] Speaker: don't have a brain enough
to know how to play request. Right?


[00:43:21 - 00:43:23] Speaker: You know what I'm saying? No.
Tell me about.


[00:43:23 - 00:43:27] Speaker: Because you can't teach somebody
in a college radio station where they.


[00:43:27 - 00:43:28] Speaker: Get to play all the music they like.


[00:43:28 - 00:43:29] Speaker: Yeah.


[00:43:29 - 00:43:32] Speaker: How to play music to please
an audience, right.


[00:43:32 - 00:43:36] Speaker: I was, when I worked at WB Erickson
Berwick, which was a country music first,


[00:43:36 - 00:43:40] Speaker: country station first,
and then it changed to an oldie station.


[00:43:40 - 00:43:44] Speaker: Now, here I am, 14 years old and playing
tiny country music.


[00:43:44 - 00:43:48] Speaker: One second and the next minute
they changed to an oldie station.


[00:43:48 - 00:43:51] Speaker: Yeah, nothing worse
could ever happen to anybody, any kid.


[00:43:51 - 00:43:53] Speaker: But it was a lot of music.


[00:43:53 - 00:43:56] Speaker: My parents listened to,
my aunt listened to, so it was like that.


[00:43:56 - 00:43:59] Speaker: Now that I think about it,
we considered those songs oldies.


[00:43:59 - 00:44:00] Speaker: Back then. It was, you know what I mean?


[00:44:00 - 00:44:02] Speaker: Pearl Jam's old. It's classic rock now.


[00:44:02 - 00:44:05] Speaker: We'd have to make our own format up,


[00:44:05 - 00:44:08] Speaker: because there were no such things
as computers and stuff,


[00:44:08 - 00:44:09] Speaker: and there was a way


[00:44:09 - 00:44:12] Speaker: that you would pick index cards
to figure out what card, but it be broke.


[00:44:12 - 00:44:14] Speaker: They didn't even have the index card
method.


[00:44:14 - 00:44:19] Speaker: But you need to make
some sort of format up to play the music.


[00:44:19 - 00:44:20] Speaker: So I somehow in my


[00:44:22 - 00:44:25] Speaker: God given brain came up with way


[00:44:25 - 00:44:29] Speaker: to play 70s, 5060s and 70s music.


[00:44:29 - 00:44:30] Speaker: Okay.


[00:44:30 - 00:44:33] Speaker: That people would enjoy listening to it
and I don't


[00:44:34 - 00:44:36] Speaker: I can't even.


[00:44:36 - 00:44:39] Speaker: And then it wasn't all about the stuff
I liked.


[00:44:39 - 00:44:40] Speaker: You know what I mean?


[00:44:40 - 00:44:42] Speaker: My grandmother used to love the big band
stuff in Creedence.


[00:44:42 - 00:44:44] Speaker: And I was like, well.


[00:44:44 - 00:44:46] Speaker: Because you can go from,
oh, what was it, Percy Sledge?


[00:44:46 - 00:44:49] Speaker: Percy, not Percy Sledge, the other Percy.


[00:44:50 - 00:44:51] Speaker: It was, What was the name of the song?


[00:44:51 - 00:44:53] Speaker: I'm losing my mind.


[00:44:53 - 00:44:56] Speaker: There was like the song, like Winchester
Cathedral.


[00:44:56 - 00:44:57] Speaker: Winchester Cathedral. Never heard.


[00:44:57 - 00:45:01] Speaker: Oh, my gosh, I'm going to have to look up
who did Winchester Cathedral.


[00:45:02 - 00:45:04] Speaker: I mean, it's like it's like,


[00:45:04 - 00:45:07] Speaker: okay, right now
I don't like I didn't like who did?


[00:45:08 - 00:45:10] Speaker: I mean, oh,
I should find it and play it for you.


[00:45:10 - 00:45:12] Speaker: As a matter of fact, that. Would be the,


[00:45:14 - 00:45:15] Speaker: that would be the cool thing to do.


[00:45:15 - 00:45:16] Speaker: When you watch. Them.


[00:45:16 - 00:45:19] Speaker: Watch them
paying us for using crazy stuff.


[00:45:19 - 00:45:21] Speaker: Oh, this song. Is so old.


[00:45:21 - 00:45:23] Speaker: It's probably past the.


[00:45:23 - 00:45:24] Speaker: What isn't there?


[00:45:24 - 00:45:27] Speaker: Keep looking.
I'm going to change the camera. Okay.


[00:45:27 - 00:45:28] Speaker: Well, it's not on me, is it?


[00:45:28 - 00:45:31] Speaker: All right, well, it's all it is.


[00:45:31 - 00:45:33] Speaker: You don't need it on me.


[00:45:33 - 00:45:34] Speaker: Oh, wait. Sorry.


[00:45:34 - 00:45:35] Speaker: I always thought that you guys.


[00:45:35 - 00:45:38] Speaker: That do talk
radio should have cameras in your.


[00:45:39 - 00:45:41] Speaker: I did. It's the reason I.


[00:45:41 - 00:45:42] Speaker: I chose radio because.


[00:45:42 - 00:45:46] Speaker: I have the perfect face for radio.


[00:45:46 - 00:45:47] Speaker: Oh, shut up.


[00:45:47 - 00:45:49] Speaker: That's so sad. So stop saying that.


[00:45:49 - 00:45:50] Speaker: No radio. Chose me.


[00:45:50 - 00:45:53] Speaker: I didn't choose it.
That's the funny thing.


[00:45:53 - 00:45:55] Speaker: And like always, we have to hear an ad.


[00:45:55 - 00:45:55] Speaker: Skip the ad


[00:45:57 - 00:46:00] Speaker: is. Is it Winchester Cathedral.


[00:46:00 - 00:46:03] Speaker: The New Vaudeville Band.


[00:46:04 - 00:46:05] Speaker: But this is more rocky than it.


[00:46:05 - 00:46:08] Speaker: Is it is.


[00:46:09 - 00:46:09] Speaker: So you're late.


[00:46:09 - 00:46:11] Speaker: So you're just so you would go, like from.


[00:46:11 - 00:46:15] Speaker: This. To lesbian sex talk now?


[00:46:15 - 00:46:16] Speaker: Oh, okay.


[00:46:16 - 00:46:21] Speaker: So I came up with my own format there,
and I remember having a meeting at a beer


[00:46:21 - 00:46:25] Speaker: where there was a college student
that also worked there,


[00:46:26 - 00:46:27] Speaker: and he was told
in the middle of the meeting


[00:46:27 - 00:46:31] Speaker: that he should listen to me, the 15 year
old at the time, because I knew how to.


[00:46:31 - 00:46:34] Speaker: Play the music. He and he did it.


[00:46:34 - 00:46:38] Speaker: So not everybody could do a format
and figure out how to play stuff, right?


[00:46:38 - 00:46:39] Speaker: It's more of that.


[00:46:39 - 00:46:40] Speaker: A talent to. Feel.


[00:46:40 - 00:46:41] Speaker: It's something you guys don't.


[00:46:41 - 00:46:46] Speaker: Yeah, and there are very few deejays
that could have actually done that.


[00:46:46 - 00:46:47] Speaker: Right.


[00:46:47 - 00:46:49] Speaker: So that's why they came
up with these formats. And


[00:46:51 - 00:46:52] Speaker: and then they


[00:46:52 - 00:46:56] Speaker: came up with this format so that not only
because you couldn't trust everybody.


[00:46:56 - 00:47:01] Speaker: To play music, but also because corporate
always has to have all the control.


[00:47:01 - 00:47:04] Speaker: They can't make you feel too important
about yourself.


[00:47:04 - 00:47:05] Speaker: Do you know what I mean? Yeah.


[00:47:05 - 00:47:06] Speaker: Since corporate radio took.


[00:47:06 - 00:47:09] Speaker: Over, things have gone way downhill,
you know?


[00:47:09 - 00:47:11] Speaker: And that was like the late 90s, early to.


[00:47:11 - 00:47:13] Speaker: Late 90s, early 2000.


[00:47:13 - 00:47:18] Speaker: Thousands when I'm on the beer now
and I was doing hairspray.


[00:47:18 - 00:47:19] Speaker: I remember this.


[00:47:19 - 00:47:22] Speaker: So Hairspray at eight was supposed to be.


[00:47:22 - 00:47:23] Speaker: Like the 80s. Bands, right?


[00:47:23 - 00:47:26] Speaker: Like two songs
at the beginning of the 8:00 hour


[00:47:26 - 00:47:27] Speaker: and I'm like, this doesn't make sense.


[00:47:27 - 00:47:29] Speaker: Two songs and then you start,


[00:47:29 - 00:47:33] Speaker: you go from poison and then you're playing
Creed the next second.


[00:47:33 - 00:47:35] Speaker: That doesn't make sense.


[00:47:35 - 00:47:37] Speaker: You should at least
do a full half hour of it.


[00:47:37 - 00:47:40] Speaker: So I started,
you call them requested 80s tune


[00:47:40 - 00:47:43] Speaker: that you haven't heard in the whole dark
Indigo Lake.


[00:47:44 - 00:47:44] Speaker: I'm going to.


[00:47:44 - 00:47:47] Speaker: I'll put it on. Wait,
you want to hear? Not the two.


[00:47:47 - 00:47:48] Speaker: Like on our program.


[00:47:48 - 00:47:50] Speaker: What it would tell.


[00:47:50 - 00:47:52] Speaker: Us what to play.


[00:47:52 - 00:47:54] Speaker: And every other day
it would be talk dirty to me by poison.


[00:47:54 - 00:47:56] Speaker: It was always the same crap.


[00:47:56 - 00:47:59] Speaker: And I'm like, listen, why have a
special show when you're playing the same?


[00:47:59 - 00:48:02] Speaker: So yeah, you play the same tunes
all the time.


[00:48:02 - 00:48:05] Speaker: I broke that rule, I didn't care,
I started playing my own stuff.


[00:48:06 - 00:48:09] Speaker: Whatever I what was requested would stuff
like if it was


[00:48:09 - 00:48:12] Speaker: something was topical in the news
or somebody's.


[00:48:12 - 00:48:15] Speaker: Birthday or whatever, I would sit there
and I did a whole half hour.


[00:48:16 - 00:48:16] Speaker: You would do that?


[00:48:16 - 00:48:19] Speaker: You would do that, coming
in. From the breaks on.


[00:48:19 - 00:48:19] Speaker: Okay, wouldn't you?


[00:48:19 - 00:48:20] Speaker: I would do one.


[00:48:20 - 00:48:24] Speaker: I would do the music news because music
always thought that was the reason I did


[00:48:24 - 00:48:25] Speaker: that was because I.


[00:48:25 - 00:48:27] Speaker: Thought that was always awesome. Part.


[00:48:27 - 00:48:30] Speaker: The funny thing is, I feel like
some of the listeners grew up with me.


[00:48:30 - 00:48:32] Speaker: We all grew up together, right? Yeah.


[00:48:32 - 00:48:35] Speaker: So there was a lot of people
that listened to me on the bare


[00:48:35 - 00:48:38] Speaker: who listened to me
on 177 Endless Mountains Rock.


[00:48:38 - 00:48:40] Speaker: Before that, when I did a morning show,


[00:48:41 - 00:48:43] Speaker: which couldn't be picked up anywhere.


[00:48:43 - 00:48:44] Speaker: But there were some people


[00:48:44 - 00:48:47] Speaker: that worked at the Sears warehouse
that with Jimmy Riggs there.


[00:48:47 - 00:48:48] Speaker: Can I see Jimmy?


[00:48:48 - 00:48:50] Speaker: Like you said, you can see all the Carlin.


[00:48:50 - 00:48:52] Speaker: You can say
all the Carlin words here. Okay.


[00:48:52 - 00:48:55] Speaker: Yeah. The, antenna,


[00:48:55 - 00:48:57] Speaker: to to listen to me


[00:48:57 - 00:49:00] Speaker: in the Sears warehouse doing that
morning show.


[00:49:00 - 00:49:01] Speaker: Really?


[00:49:01 - 00:49:04] Speaker: Well, nobody even knew what the station
was until, like, I.


[00:49:04 - 00:49:05] Speaker: But I shouldn't even say that.


[00:49:05 - 00:49:07] Speaker: I'm not full of myself, though, because I.


[00:49:07 - 00:49:08] Speaker: I don't think anyone thinks you are.


[00:49:08 - 00:49:12] Speaker: I always did it with the listener first,
like the listener always came first.


[00:49:12 - 00:49:14] Speaker: You sound proud. The show is about you.


[00:49:14 - 00:49:18] Speaker: Yeah, I would integrate people
into the show as much as I possibly could.


[00:49:18 - 00:49:20] Speaker: I'd have fun doing contests.


[00:49:20 - 00:49:25] Speaker: You know, making people late, just like,
just have fun.


[00:49:25 - 00:49:26] Speaker: I would.


[00:49:26 - 00:49:27] Speaker: Break the monotony.


[00:49:27 - 00:49:28] Speaker: Right? Yeah.


[00:49:28 - 00:49:29] Speaker: Look, like even lesbian.


[00:49:29 - 00:49:32] Speaker: Sex talk was about local girls
and local. People. Totally.


[00:49:32 - 00:49:35] Speaker: You know,
I would bring local strippers in.


[00:49:35 - 00:49:36] Speaker: I would. Bring.


[00:49:36 - 00:49:38] Speaker: How did I not. Listen to. Like,
how did you not listen to it?


[00:49:38 - 00:49:41] Speaker: I don't I can't say I.


[00:49:41 - 00:49:42] Speaker: Remember. Lesbian sex talk.


[00:49:42 - 00:49:43] Speaker: I used to.


[00:49:43 - 00:49:46] Speaker: Play softball
when I was at 177 Endless Mountains


[00:49:46 - 00:49:49] Speaker: rock with a group of guys
from a local hardware store,


[00:49:50 - 00:49:53] Speaker: you know, and then I go from there.


[00:49:53 - 00:49:55] Speaker: I worked in the newspaper
for a little bit,


[00:49:55 - 00:49:58] Speaker: selling advertising
and promising the manager there


[00:49:58 - 00:50:01] Speaker: that I would never get back
into radio again.


[00:50:01 - 00:50:03] Speaker: I quit that job, and I quit that.


[00:50:03 - 00:50:07] Speaker: Job because the boss kept trying
to kiss me one too many times and would.


[00:50:07 - 00:50:11] Speaker: Hand me the my paycheck, saying,
you got paid this week.


[00:50:11 - 00:50:13] Speaker: And I didn't fuck.


[00:50:13 - 00:50:14] Speaker: Yeah, well, that's what I said. Yeah.


[00:50:14 - 00:50:17] Speaker: You know, and it was, it was, he was.


[00:50:17 - 00:50:18] Speaker: It was terrible.


[00:50:18 - 00:50:20] Speaker: He was just. Too hard to work with.


[00:50:20 - 00:50:21] Speaker: And I wouldn't kiss him. Yeah.


[00:50:21 - 00:50:25] Speaker: And maybe that's why my career
is finally over after 40 years.


[00:50:25 - 00:50:26] Speaker: I don't think it's over, Nikki.


[00:50:26 - 00:50:28] Speaker: It's not over.


[00:50:28 - 00:50:29] Speaker: It's not over.


[00:50:29 - 00:50:30] Speaker: I shouldn't say that.


[00:50:30 - 00:50:32] Speaker: I don't need to do it for my ego.


[00:50:32 - 00:50:34] Speaker: I don't gotta do it for people anymore.


[00:50:34 - 00:50:37] Speaker: I do not want to go
and just be a liner card reader.


[00:50:37 - 00:50:40] Speaker: No, I'm not voice tracking stations
all across the country.


[00:50:40 - 00:50:42] Speaker: I've always been all about northeast PA.


[00:50:42 - 00:50:43] Speaker: Yeah, I don't want to just go.


[00:50:43 - 00:50:47] Speaker: When you voice track, which is taping
a show, doing just a little.


[00:50:48 - 00:50:51] Speaker: Here's the latest song by Creed.


[00:50:51 - 00:50:54] Speaker: But if there was your music anywhere but
you know, I went to Creed over the summer.


[00:50:54 - 00:50:57] Speaker: They were phenomenal where they really
they were nominal.


[00:50:57 - 00:50:59] Speaker: They all look like
they were chiseled out of marble.


[00:50:59 - 00:51:00] Speaker: It was unbelievable.


[00:51:00 - 00:51:04] Speaker: I just I'm not interested
in doing any of that.


[00:51:04 - 00:51:06] Speaker: Yeah, I want to I want to interact.


[00:51:06 - 00:51:09] Speaker: I want to make it like about people
because this is what I did.


[00:51:09 - 00:51:12] Speaker: I want you to be part of the show.


[00:51:13 - 00:51:15] Speaker: And I was number one at night.


[00:51:16 - 00:51:18] Speaker: I kicked


[00:51:18 - 00:51:20] Speaker: other people's asses at other stations.


[00:51:20 - 00:51:21] Speaker: Who still to this day.


[00:51:21 - 00:51:23] Speaker: Probably don't like me for it.


[00:51:23 - 00:51:25] Speaker: I don't know, I can't say that out loud.


[00:51:25 - 00:51:28] Speaker: All right,
I give cares your run for their money.


[00:51:28 - 00:51:30] Speaker: You know, I


[00:51:30 - 00:51:32] Speaker: it was pretty amazing.


[00:51:32 - 00:51:35] Speaker: Now I'm working at the bear doing this.


[00:51:35 - 00:51:37] Speaker: Doing okay. So I do Hairspray at eight.


[00:51:37 - 00:51:39] Speaker: They told
you only supposed to be two songs. 2 or 3.


[00:51:39 - 00:51:41] Speaker: I think it was,
but it wasn't a full half hour.


[00:51:41 - 00:51:42] Speaker: That's all I know.


[00:51:42 - 00:51:45] Speaker: And the break didn't fall
until like 25 after,


[00:51:45 - 00:51:48] Speaker: you know,
so at least do it up to the break.


[00:51:49 - 00:51:51] Speaker: That only makes sense to me. Why?


[00:51:51 - 00:51:53] Speaker: Why would you just end it
like two songs and.


[00:51:53 - 00:51:54] Speaker: Okay, here, we're back playing,


[00:51:56 - 00:51:57] Speaker: Slipknot.


[00:51:57 - 00:51:58] Speaker: Yeah, it doesn't make any sense.


[00:51:58 - 00:52:01] Speaker: So I also did the 9:00 riot.


[00:52:01 - 00:52:02] Speaker: I remember this time.


[00:52:02 - 00:52:05] Speaker: The 9:00 riot was all requests.


[00:52:05 - 00:52:09] Speaker: Now, all requests on other radio stations


[00:52:09 - 00:52:12] Speaker: that were rock in the area.


[00:52:12 - 00:52:15] Speaker: They gave you room for two.


[00:52:15 - 00:52:17] Speaker: Actual requests.


[00:52:17 - 00:52:19] Speaker: Because everything was all told to. You,
because.


[00:52:19 - 00:52:22] Speaker: Everything. Was written down to play,
and you.


[00:52:22 - 00:52:24] Speaker: Couldn't break their rules at all.


[00:52:24 - 00:52:27] Speaker: So it's like,
okay, the new Dave Matthews came out.


[00:52:27 - 00:52:29] Speaker: We have to play Matthews.


[00:52:29 - 00:52:33] Speaker: And and see,
I was asked to follow some guidelines


[00:52:34 - 00:52:37] Speaker: when I did the 8:00 hour
and played all those requests.


[00:52:38 - 00:52:40] Speaker: Okay.
You still have to get the currents in.


[00:52:40 - 00:52:41] Speaker: That we need to get in.


[00:52:41 - 00:52:43] Speaker: So I don't care what else.


[00:52:43 - 00:52:47] Speaker: You know if you know Ozzy,
crazy train came up later in the hour.


[00:52:47 - 00:52:49] Speaker: If you you know,
you don't have to play that.


[00:52:49 - 00:52:52] Speaker: But you have to pay play. The current.


[00:52:52 - 00:52:53] Speaker: Yeah.


[00:52:53 - 00:52:56] Speaker: Which I was okay with, you know,
and then 9:00 when I did


[00:52:56 - 00:53:00] Speaker: the 9:00 right there,
there was a couple currents in there.


[00:53:01 - 00:53:02] Speaker: Then I had to. Make sure I got in.


[00:53:02 - 00:53:04] Speaker: But a lot of those currents were ones


[00:53:04 - 00:53:06] Speaker: that were going to be requested
or requested.


[00:53:06 - 00:53:08] Speaker: At some point anyway. Right.


[00:53:08 - 00:53:11] Speaker: So we weren't selling your soul.
Kind of. Right. Yeah.


[00:53:11 - 00:53:16] Speaker: The rest of the hour,
though, was all requests and normal.


[00:53:16 - 00:53:21] Speaker: Other stations were only putting
two blanks on the whole hour log


[00:53:22 - 00:53:24] Speaker: for requests
and calling in a request hour,


[00:53:24 - 00:53:27] Speaker: and then faking the rest of it.


[00:53:27 - 00:53:28] Speaker: Taking the rest of it.


[00:53:28 - 00:53:31] Speaker: It's all a TV show, right?


[00:53:31 - 00:53:35] Speaker: But you have to play to the audience
somehow.


[00:53:35 - 00:53:36] Speaker: Sure. No.


[00:53:36 - 00:53:38] Speaker: Okay, I did learn early on in my career


[00:53:38 - 00:53:41] Speaker: why You Can't Play Animals by Pink
Floyd is a request.


[00:53:42 - 00:53:42] Speaker: You want me to.


[00:53:42 - 00:53:44] Speaker: Pull it up and play that one. Tuned out?


[00:53:44 - 00:53:46] Speaker: I know I'm a big Floyd guy.


[00:53:46 - 00:53:48] Speaker: Looks like. Yeah,
you know what I'm saying?


[00:53:48 - 00:53:50] Speaker: There's a reason or why.


[00:53:50 - 00:53:52] Speaker: Why don't you play more, Frank Zappa. For.


[00:53:52 - 00:53:54] Speaker: The three people who wanted. To hear more?


[00:53:54 - 00:53:57] Speaker: Yeah, but for, like, he. Has a leash.


[00:53:57 - 00:54:00] Speaker: I was going to say, for as iconic
as he is, nobody really wants to hear that


[00:54:00 - 00:54:02] Speaker: on the radio. I'm
just sorry. I'm saying it like.


[00:54:02 - 00:54:02] Speaker: People want.


[00:54:02 - 00:54:05] Speaker: To hear Zappa when they're
when they're eating fucking psychedelics.


[00:54:05 - 00:54:07] Speaker: Right. Well, let's see on the lawn.


[00:54:07 - 00:54:08] Speaker: Right? Yeah.


[00:54:08 - 00:54:10] Speaker: So what was it, the thing that, like.


[00:54:10 - 00:54:13] Speaker: I mean, you've always been, you know, very


[00:54:14 - 00:54:17] Speaker: you've you've
always had a connection with people.


[00:54:17 - 00:54:18] Speaker: So what. Was it that was.


[00:54:18 - 00:54:21] Speaker: As you get into like the craziness of,
like.


[00:54:22 - 00:54:24] Speaker: Political stuff or.


[00:54:24 - 00:54:27] Speaker: You know, where it's like
there is no songs anymore.


[00:54:27 - 00:54:29] Speaker: It's just it now, you. Know,
because you're.


[00:54:29 - 00:54:30] Speaker: Responsible for three hours, like.


[00:54:30 - 00:54:32] Speaker: I just said, I was more rock than talk.


[00:54:32 - 00:54:35] Speaker: And I want to add a little bit to that
story, please, please.


[00:54:35 - 00:54:35] Speaker: With.


[00:54:35 - 00:54:40] Speaker: So we get a music directory, the bear
that comes in from Modesto, California.


[00:54:40 - 00:54:41] Speaker: Okay.


[00:54:41 - 00:54:44] Speaker: And I wasn't sitting there,
but one of our promotions directors


[00:54:44 - 00:54:47] Speaker: when they used to hire more like
they used to have three promotion


[00:54:47 - 00:54:49] Speaker: directors
for all the stations in the building.


[00:54:49 - 00:54:50] Speaker: You know,


[00:54:50 - 00:54:55] Speaker: she was sitting by the door in this guy
from California, goes into the office.


[00:54:55 - 00:54:58] Speaker: And is yelling at sausage because I don't
she doesn't.


[00:54:58 - 00:55:02] Speaker: Follow the music log in is he was already
like hell bent to go after me.


[00:55:02 - 00:55:06] Speaker: Yeah, and I understand that
sausage said to him,


[00:55:07 - 00:55:09] Speaker: when you get the ratings that she gets.


[00:55:09 - 00:55:12] Speaker: Then you can complain.


[00:55:12 - 00:55:15] Speaker: But until then, we let Nikki
do what Nikki does.


[00:55:15 - 00:55:16] Speaker: You know what I mean? But.


[00:55:16 - 00:55:19] Speaker: And I appreciate that because, you know.


[00:55:19 - 00:55:21] Speaker: Right.
But then they stopped chasing the ratings.


[00:55:21 - 00:55:24] Speaker: Then it became all about like,
you have to do what we tell you


[00:55:24 - 00:55:26] Speaker: because, like, that. Was the thing
that, like, that's.


[00:55:26 - 00:55:27] Speaker: What I don't understand.


[00:55:27 - 00:55:30] Speaker: But there was like this. Punk
rock aspect to it that I really loved.


[00:55:30 - 00:55:33] Speaker: Like if it worked like talk
like radio in general, back in the like,


[00:55:33 - 00:55:36] Speaker: even when I was growing up in high school
and then little after.


[00:55:36 - 00:55:38] Speaker: It was real punk
rock. Yeah, I don't know when they


[00:55:39 - 00:55:41] Speaker: started to make it so less.


[00:55:41 - 00:55:45] Speaker: About the people and make it.
You know what?


[00:55:45 - 00:55:47] Speaker: I mean? Almost like a propaganda machine.


[00:55:47 - 00:55:48] Speaker: Exactly.


[00:55:48 - 00:55:50] Speaker: Because they're telling us
what music we want to listen to.


[00:55:50 - 00:55:53] Speaker: Yeah.
You can't deviate. You can't deviate.


[00:55:53 - 00:55:54] Speaker: These are the topics you can.


[00:55:54 - 00:55:54] Speaker: And this.


[00:55:54 - 00:55:56] Speaker: Is why I don't want this is my.


[00:55:56 - 00:55:58] Speaker: Going into talk.


[00:55:58 - 00:56:00] Speaker: Radio was much better for me.


[00:56:00 - 00:56:04] Speaker: Because if I wasn't because after I left
the beer and I left the beer because,


[00:56:05 - 00:56:07] Speaker: well, they turned to what they want.


[00:56:07 - 00:56:10] Speaker: They turned to Iraq for a while,
but a different


[00:56:10 - 00:56:13] Speaker: Z rock because, yes, Rock one and seven
had a sister station, Zee Rock, for a bit,


[00:56:13 - 00:56:18] Speaker: but there was for about 4 or 5 months


[00:56:19 - 00:56:21] Speaker: there was a station 97, nine.


[00:56:21 - 00:56:23] Speaker: Was Zee Rock.


[00:56:24 - 00:56:25] Speaker: And then you were the X.


[00:56:25 - 00:56:26] Speaker: And then it turned to the X.


[00:56:26 - 00:56:27] Speaker: Yeah. Okay.


[00:56:27 - 00:56:30] Speaker: X was originally on 93.7.


[00:56:30 - 00:56:33] Speaker: I remember that. Yeah. Yeah. So


[00:56:33 - 00:56:35] Speaker: and then they had that G rock
and then they.


[00:56:35 - 00:56:36] Speaker: So it all kind of came together.


[00:56:36 - 00:56:38] Speaker: It was the weirdest thing on the planet.


[00:56:38 - 00:56:41] Speaker: Only knows I got pregnant. In this period.


[00:56:42 - 00:56:45] Speaker: And I,


[00:56:45 - 00:56:47] Speaker: we didn't want to tell you what I worked
with because I knew that would be.


[00:56:47 - 00:56:49] Speaker: Detrimental to my career.


[00:56:49 - 00:56:50] Speaker: Being pregnant.


[00:56:50 - 00:56:52] Speaker: Being pregnant as a radio announcer
and taking time off.


[00:56:52 - 00:56:55] Speaker: And yeah, I really I felt that way.


[00:56:56 - 00:56:58] Speaker: And I turns out I wasn't really wrong.


[00:56:59 - 00:57:03] Speaker: Right before I got pregnant,
I was I applied to be the.


[00:57:03 - 00:57:06] Speaker: Program director of Zee Rock.


[00:57:07 - 00:57:09] Speaker: I was turned down for that job.


[00:57:09 - 00:57:12] Speaker: They brought another woman
and a female. In from out of state


[00:57:14 - 00:57:18] Speaker: and. That was called into the office
by the GM.


[00:57:18 - 00:57:24] Speaker: And the GM said, said to me,
the reason I didn't give you the program


[00:57:24 - 00:57:29] Speaker: director job for Zee Rock was,
I see you have a country music background


[00:57:30 - 00:57:33] Speaker: and we're going to put another country
station on the air.


[00:57:34 - 00:57:35] Speaker: Is that Froggy?


[00:57:35 - 00:57:37] Speaker: No, it was


[00:57:37 - 00:57:38] Speaker: was it the second.


[00:57:38 - 00:57:41] Speaker: Incarnation of Cat country? Pre mash.


[00:57:41 - 00:57:43] Speaker: Okay. All right. Like because


[00:57:43 - 00:57:46] Speaker: 93 seven took over cat country I remember.


[00:57:46 - 00:57:47] Speaker: Okay. Yeah yeah. All right.


[00:57:47 - 00:57:48] Speaker: Yeah yeah okay. Yeah.


[00:57:48 - 00:57:48] Speaker: So when they.


[00:57:48 - 00:57:52] Speaker: Were moving 9093 7 to. 90.


[00:57:52 - 00:57:55] Speaker: 7 to 9790. Something to fill. The gap.


[00:57:55 - 00:57:56] Speaker: They were going to put.


[00:57:56 - 00:57:58] Speaker: Cat country on the air again.


[00:57:58 - 00:57:59] Speaker: All right.


[00:57:59 - 00:58:02] Speaker: So I was like okay


[00:58:03 - 00:58:05] Speaker: I ended up having to
tell them I'm pregnant though


[00:58:06 - 00:58:08] Speaker: because


[00:58:08 - 00:58:11] Speaker: they were pushing me to do this
diet thing to.


[00:58:11 - 00:58:13] Speaker: And I wasn't even really heavy
at that time.


[00:58:13 - 00:58:15] Speaker: At that time, it wasn't.


[00:58:15 - 00:58:18] Speaker: Heavy and all. But I was starting, I.


[00:58:18 - 00:58:21] Speaker: Think I was starting to gain
weight in there somewhere.


[00:58:24 - 00:58:25] Speaker: But I had a miscarriage before that.


[00:58:25 - 00:58:27] Speaker: So you could have had something.


[00:58:27 - 00:58:28] Speaker: Whatever. It doesn't matter.


[00:58:28 - 00:58:31] Speaker: So I was okay.


[00:58:31 - 00:58:32] Speaker: You know,
they asked me if I would be interested


[00:58:32 - 00:58:36] Speaker: in doing the Stein thing
to do testimonials for the company.


[00:58:36 - 00:58:38] Speaker: And I'm like, I don't know.


[00:58:38 - 00:58:41] Speaker: Like, I don't really like doing anything
that's not natural.


[00:58:41 - 00:58:43] Speaker: And they did it up.


[00:58:43 - 00:58:45] Speaker: But then they were pushing
and I finally had to say,


[00:58:45 - 00:58:48] Speaker: I can't do it
because I'm pregnant. Gotcha.


[00:58:48 - 00:58:49] Speaker: At which point.


[00:58:52 - 00:58:53] Speaker: I never heard about.


[00:58:53 - 00:58:54] Speaker: The job, the.


[00:58:54 - 00:58:56] Speaker: Job again, about being program director.


[00:58:56 - 00:58:58] Speaker: And then I found out
that somebody else in the building


[00:58:58 - 00:59:01] Speaker: was working on it,
who had no country background.


[00:59:01 - 00:59:04] Speaker: One bit whatsoever.


[00:59:04 - 00:59:05] Speaker: And I was like,


[00:59:05 - 00:59:08] Speaker: So then we had this big meeting


[00:59:08 - 00:59:11] Speaker: about the 97 nine going.


[00:59:11 - 00:59:14] Speaker: On to to be the X.


[00:59:14 - 00:59:16] Speaker: And no, nothing about a country
station was being brought.


[00:59:16 - 00:59:18] Speaker: Up and they kind of all laughed it off


[00:59:18 - 00:59:21] Speaker: that there was going
to be a country station.


[00:59:21 - 00:59:24] Speaker: So after the meeting,
I respectfully went into the GM's.


[00:59:24 - 00:59:25] Speaker: Office and said,


[00:59:25 - 00:59:28] Speaker: now you already told me you're
putting the country station on the air.


[00:59:29 - 00:59:32] Speaker: I said, you also told me,


[00:59:32 - 00:59:34] Speaker: that I would be program director of it.


[00:59:34 - 00:59:37] Speaker: And I know this other person over
here has been working on it.


[00:59:39 - 00:59:42] Speaker: What's the deal?


[00:59:42 - 00:59:44] Speaker: He asked me how long
I was going to have to take off work.


[00:59:44 - 00:59:45] Speaker: Anyway.


[00:59:45 - 00:59:48] Speaker: That was his response to you.


[00:59:48 - 00:59:51] Speaker: And then he told me.


[00:59:51 - 00:59:52] Speaker: I was also going, I and I wasn't.


[00:59:52 - 00:59:55] Speaker: I didn't raise my voice.
I was talking just like this. I was in L.


[00:59:55 - 00:59:57] Speaker: And I was just saying, you know,
this is what's going on.


[00:59:57 - 00:59:58] Speaker: But your woman, you know,


[00:59:58 - 01:00:01] Speaker: they all think that your whenever told me
I was pregnant and emotional.


[01:00:02 - 01:00:03] Speaker: He said, you're being pregnant and an.


[01:00:03 - 01:00:06] Speaker: Emotional asking about it.


[01:00:07 - 01:00:08] Speaker: Who talks like that?


[01:00:08 - 01:00:11] Speaker: Right. Honest to God it really happened.


[01:00:11 - 01:00:13] Speaker: And I'm like.


[01:00:13 - 01:00:15] Speaker: Whoa.


[01:00:15 - 01:00:19] Speaker: So at that point I wasn't comfortable
there, you know?


[01:00:19 - 01:00:21] Speaker: And I am praying now, now
at this point, I'm pregnant. Pregnant.


[01:00:26 - 01:00:27] Speaker: I decided to file a.


[01:00:27 - 01:00:29] Speaker: Grievance with the company.


[01:00:29 - 01:00:30] Speaker: The corporate?


[01:00:30 - 01:00:32] Speaker: Yeah.


[01:00:32 - 01:00:35] Speaker: For some reason,


[01:00:35 - 01:00:39] Speaker: our human resources director was no longer
human resources director.


[01:00:39 - 01:00:42] Speaker: She was just doing whatever,


[01:00:42 - 01:00:45] Speaker: and I had to bring it through the business
management manager who is.


[01:00:45 - 01:00:48] Speaker: Still with that company. I don't know why.


[01:00:48 - 01:00:50] Speaker: But now I have lots of theories on


[01:00:50 - 01:00:53] Speaker: how some people keep their jobs,
so I'm sorry.


[01:00:54 - 01:00:56] Speaker: You know,
maybe it's something we can talk about.


[01:00:56 - 01:00:58] Speaker: Lesbian talk. No, no.


[01:00:58 - 01:01:01] Speaker: We're not, so I don't know. So,


[01:01:02 - 01:01:06] Speaker: she puts it right through the general
manager, who I have the grievance against.


[01:01:06 - 01:01:07] Speaker: That's insane.


[01:01:07 - 01:01:09] Speaker: I don't like. How does that happen?


[01:01:09 - 01:01:11] Speaker: So then I'm like, I don't know what to do.


[01:01:11 - 01:01:14] Speaker: I did get a lawyer who said, okay,
these are what you need to do


[01:01:15 - 01:01:16] Speaker: to follow through.


[01:01:16 - 01:01:18] Speaker: On this,
to file a grievance with the state.


[01:01:19 - 01:01:20] Speaker: The guy from the


[01:01:20 - 01:01:23] Speaker: state literally told me that
he thought one of the.


[01:01:23 - 01:01:26] Speaker: Parents should stay home with the kids.


[01:01:28 - 01:01:28] Speaker: Really?


[01:01:28 - 01:01:30] Speaker: You think he met my truck driving husband?


[01:01:30 - 01:01:32] Speaker: I'm just asking.


[01:01:32 - 01:01:34] Speaker: What do you. What do you think? Well,
I mean. That makes sense.


[01:01:34 - 01:01:35] Speaker: I mean. Yeah, right. Yeah.


[01:01:35 - 01:01:38] Speaker: I mean, the person who should stay home
is the truck driving lesson.


[01:01:38 - 01:01:38] Speaker: Yeah.


[01:01:38 - 01:01:41] Speaker: I think how do people, like, see,
that's the thing.


[01:01:41 - 01:01:43] Speaker: Like, I don't like, I don't.


[01:01:43 - 01:01:44] Speaker: Even understand,


[01:01:44 - 01:01:47] Speaker: but maybe I just needed to know this stuff
that it actually exists.


[01:01:47 - 01:01:50] Speaker: I didn't want to fight for money, though,
or anything else


[01:01:50 - 01:01:51] Speaker: or to keep the job at this point.


[01:01:51 - 01:01:54] Speaker: I was done with the company
after that all happened.


[01:01:54 - 01:01:57] Speaker: Unfortunately,
I just burn some bridges at that point.


[01:01:57 - 01:02:00] Speaker: Like I'm taking care of wire.


[01:02:00 - 01:02:04] Speaker: And one of the best bosses I ever had
was sausage, you know, and.


[01:02:04 - 01:02:05] Speaker: Everything's about him.


[01:02:05 - 01:02:09] Speaker: And Aaron Roberts was premium,
who was an excellent, excellent boss


[01:02:10 - 01:02:11] Speaker: who was a real, real.


[01:02:11 - 01:02:13] Speaker: Real program. Director, too.


[01:02:13 - 01:02:14] Speaker: Not just a yes man.


[01:02:14 - 01:02:18] Speaker: Yeah, but sausage was also a good person
because he let me be me. He.


[01:02:18 - 01:02:21] Speaker: But he knew I could be
me and could get the ratings.


[01:02:21 - 01:02:22] Speaker: Well, that's. What matters and that.


[01:02:22 - 01:02:24] Speaker: But that doesn't. Count at all anymore.


[01:02:24 - 01:02:27] Speaker: With some of these companies.


[01:02:27 - 01:02:27] Speaker: I mean, come on.


[01:02:27 - 01:02:32] Speaker: I had number one ratings
to do an afternoon on rank one and seven.


[01:02:33 - 01:02:36] Speaker: They gave me a $1,000 bonus
for hitting my ratings.


[01:02:36 - 01:02:37] Speaker: Now, when I was doing nights on the bear,


[01:02:37 - 01:02:39] Speaker: there were no bonus structures
for the nature of out there.


[01:02:39 - 01:02:40] Speaker: Just say high five.


[01:02:40 - 01:02:40] Speaker: Thank you.


[01:02:40 - 01:02:43] Speaker: Now starting in the morning, me at night


[01:02:44 - 01:02:49] Speaker: and the only person not pulling ratings
on that station other than what stern got.


[01:02:49 - 01:02:50] Speaker: But stern wasn't


[01:02:50 - 01:02:54] Speaker: making the company any money
because he was too controversial.


[01:02:54 - 01:02:55] Speaker: Yeah. So you didn't get along.


[01:02:55 - 01:02:56] Speaker: That was when he was syndicated, right?


[01:02:56 - 01:02:59] Speaker: Yeah, yeah. Preet XM. So who?


[01:02:59 - 01:03:01] Speaker: How the hell how the hell do you get into?


[01:03:01 - 01:03:03] Speaker: So how do you jump out of there
to be like,


[01:03:03 - 01:03:04] Speaker: oh, I'm just going to talk to people and


[01:03:04 - 01:03:08] Speaker: and and take calls
and have you have guests interviews?


[01:03:08 - 01:03:11] Speaker: I was on the bear during 911.


[01:03:12 - 01:03:13] Speaker: Oh, shit.


[01:03:13 - 01:03:15] Speaker: Wait, were. You on, like,
when the towers got hit?


[01:03:15 - 01:03:17] Speaker: Yeah. No. Okay. That morning.


[01:03:17 - 01:03:18] Speaker: So that was stern.


[01:03:18 - 01:03:19] Speaker: I was.


[01:03:19 - 01:03:21] Speaker: Yeah, I was supposed to be off of.


[01:03:21 - 01:03:24] Speaker: Work that day.


[01:03:24 - 01:03:27] Speaker: My husband was off,
I was sleeping, I was gone.


[01:03:27 - 01:03:29] Speaker: I never take time off work. I'm like, I.


[01:03:29 - 01:03:31] Speaker: I don't work. I'm, like, really weird.


[01:03:31 - 01:03:32] Speaker: I'm, like, messed up on that.


[01:03:32 - 01:03:35] Speaker: Work hard, be nice. And it would never I.


[01:03:35 - 01:03:38] Speaker: I don't believe in taking off
just to take off, you know what I mean?


[01:03:38 - 01:03:41] Speaker: And also in radio you learn that if you
take two days off, they might replace you.


[01:03:41 - 01:03:42] Speaker: The next day.


[01:03:42 - 01:03:44] Speaker: So you get you get a little nervous there.


[01:03:44 - 01:03:46] Speaker: Yeah.


[01:03:46 - 01:03:46] Speaker: Job security.


[01:03:46 - 01:03:49] Speaker: So I decided I was taking a night off,


[01:03:50 - 01:03:52] Speaker: and because my husband had an ass
and thank God,


[01:03:52 - 01:03:54] Speaker: because my husband used to drive
over the George.


[01:03:54 - 01:03:57] Speaker: Washington Bridge at that point, like.
Okay. Yeah.


[01:03:57 - 01:04:00] Speaker: So I,


[01:04:00 - 01:04:03] Speaker: get a phone call from a friend,
and she goes, you better turn your TV on.


[01:04:03 - 01:04:04] Speaker: You need to turn your TV on.


[01:04:04 - 01:04:07] Speaker: I remember that day so vividly.


[01:04:07 - 01:04:09] Speaker: And I'm like, it, turn it on.


[01:04:09 - 01:04:12] Speaker: Just as the second plane was hitting.


[01:04:12 - 01:04:13] Speaker: So did I.


[01:04:13 - 01:04:17] Speaker: And I was like,
oh my gosh, I don't know what to do.


[01:04:18 - 01:04:21] Speaker: And like, you know how that day was?


[01:04:21 - 01:04:22] Speaker: That day went just weird.


[01:04:22 - 01:04:25] Speaker: I was just about ready to pick up my phone
and call sausage.


[01:04:25 - 01:04:26] Speaker: To tell him I wanted to go in.


[01:04:26 - 01:04:29] Speaker: When he called me and said,
I think you need to come in tonight


[01:04:29 - 01:04:32] Speaker: because nobody connects with the audience
like you do, and I think they need you.


[01:04:33 - 01:04:34] Speaker: Oh, wow.


[01:04:34 - 01:04:36] Speaker: And I at the time.


[01:04:36 - 01:04:37] Speaker: And I wish I had copies of every.


[01:04:37 - 01:04:40] Speaker: I'm not a good saver of like,
oh, this is all the stuff I didn't.


[01:04:40 - 01:04:41] Speaker: Look at all my whatever.


[01:04:41 - 01:04:43] Speaker: Yeah. I'm not good at that.


[01:04:43 - 01:04:45] Speaker: But I wish I did have some of the writings
I did.


[01:04:45 - 01:04:48] Speaker: I websites were kind of fairly new,
but I was doing a blog on the website,


[01:04:49 - 01:04:51] Speaker: and I was doing a blog on
the. Website to keep people


[01:04:52 - 01:04:53] Speaker: unified.


[01:04:53 - 01:04:57] Speaker: Yeah, unified, you know,
and to talk about stuff on the website.


[01:04:57 - 01:05:01] Speaker: Plus doing the show at night where I took.


[01:05:01 - 01:05:03] Speaker: Calls from people who were supposed.


[01:05:03 - 01:05:06] Speaker: To be in New York
that day that didn't go to New York.


[01:05:06 - 01:05:09] Speaker: People that,


[01:05:09 - 01:05:12] Speaker: were, from this area


[01:05:12 - 01:05:15] Speaker: and used to work there, like their
the connections that were made.


[01:05:15 - 01:05:18] Speaker: I still get the chills. Thinking about it.
Makes me want to cry.


[01:05:18 - 01:05:20] Speaker: Yeah, but and to.


[01:05:20 - 01:05:22] Speaker: Be told that even
I have the message from sausage.


[01:05:22 - 01:05:27] Speaker: I eventually had a I wrote him
a couple of years back an apology.


[01:05:27 - 01:05:30] Speaker: For how I left the company.


[01:05:30 - 01:05:33] Speaker: They wanted me to come back
part time after I had the baby,


[01:05:33 - 01:05:34] Speaker: and I thought I was treated poorly.


[01:05:34 - 01:05:37] Speaker: So I told them, let me talk to my husband.


[01:05:37 - 01:05:38] Speaker: I don't know if I want to come back
at least part time.


[01:05:38 - 01:05:39] Speaker: They wanted me to come back full time,


[01:05:41 - 01:05:43] Speaker: but I said, I don't know because I have.


[01:05:43 - 01:05:45] Speaker: A little girl
and I work and hours and. Radio.


[01:05:45 - 01:05:48] Speaker: I don't want to do so. Instead of.


[01:05:48 - 01:05:50] Speaker: Taking his offer to go back and work.


[01:05:50 - 01:05:53] Speaker: There, I called Rockland Southern.


[01:05:53 - 01:05:56] Speaker: Rob Lipschitz
was the program director at the time,


[01:05:56 - 01:05:59] Speaker: and he tripped over himself
and found me a ticket in,


[01:05:59 - 01:06:02] Speaker: which was nice, you know?


[01:06:05 - 01:06:07] Speaker: I felt bad about it later,


[01:06:07 - 01:06:09] Speaker: and I don't know, I'm.


[01:06:09 - 01:06:12] Speaker: I am not sorry for any part of my career.


[01:06:14 - 01:06:16] Speaker: When I worked at one of seven seven,
it was mountains rock.


[01:06:16 - 01:06:19] Speaker: I told you, this guy, I was trying to kiss
you, kiss me all the time. And.


[01:06:21 - 01:06:21] Speaker: I was doing.


[01:06:21 - 01:06:22] Speaker: I was doing sales.


[01:06:22 - 01:06:25] Speaker: I was in a car loan with them, and
they say, oh, you made your first sale.


[01:06:25 - 01:06:27] Speaker: Give me a kiss. I would like to find out.


[01:06:27 - 01:06:29] Speaker: I would have put a pineapple up his ass.


[01:06:29 - 01:06:32] Speaker: I was like, you know, and I'm like, no.


[01:06:32 - 01:06:33] Speaker: Oh, like the whole.


[01:06:33 - 01:06:35] Speaker: I was. Such a bitch. Back then. Good.


[01:06:36 - 01:06:39] Speaker: He was fooling around with other people.


[01:06:39 - 01:06:39] Speaker: Guys like that.


[01:06:39 - 01:06:42] Speaker: And his wife was coming in
because we were so hokey.


[01:06:42 - 01:06:47] Speaker: Station and yeah, you can't pay his wife
to come in and answer phones for us.


[01:06:48 - 01:06:51] Speaker: But if she couldn't answer phone,
I was expected to answer,


[01:06:51 - 01:06:52] Speaker: well, I was on the air, right.


[01:06:52 - 01:06:53] Speaker: You know, that's.


[01:06:53 - 01:06:56] Speaker: Yeah. Where can I direct your call? So.


[01:06:56 - 01:06:59] Speaker: So I would be trying to do
stuff, get ready for like,


[01:06:59 - 01:07:03] Speaker: the next bit on the air
morning show and the phone ring


[01:07:03 - 01:07:06] Speaker: and ring and ring.


[01:07:06 - 01:07:07] Speaker: And I count.


[01:07:07 - 01:07:11] Speaker: One, two. Three.


[01:07:11 - 01:07:14] Speaker: I guess she's oblivious to the phone
ringing, like she's oblivious


[01:07:14 - 01:07:17] Speaker: to her husband fucking around on her.


[01:07:24 - 01:07:26] Speaker: Oh, man, radio was awesome.


[01:07:26 - 01:07:28] Speaker: Okay, but let. Me tell you the horror.


[01:07:28 - 01:07:31] Speaker: Like,
where did I burn myself? Do they not? Now?


[01:07:31 - 01:07:33] Speaker: I stood true to myself always.
Like I was being a dick.


[01:07:33 - 01:07:36] Speaker: You have to be a dick back, right? It's
my way. And I'm still true to myself.


[01:07:36 - 01:07:37] Speaker: Always to.


[01:07:37 - 01:07:42] Speaker: Yeah,
you know, he later went to be a manager


[01:07:43 - 01:07:46] Speaker: and a local and


[01:07:46 - 01:07:49] Speaker: a company locally
that has a station in Baltimore, Maryland.


[01:07:50 - 01:07:51] Speaker: Okay.


[01:07:51 - 01:07:54] Speaker: For one of their stations out there,
did he.


[01:07:54 - 01:07:55] Speaker: And well.


[01:07:55 - 01:07:57] Speaker: I guess he did
because they quietly let him go


[01:07:57 - 01:08:01] Speaker: back to the Scranton station
while I was working there. Wow.


[01:08:02 - 01:08:04] Speaker: And he never really made
eye contact with me.


[01:08:04 - 01:08:07] Speaker: He was kind of cordial to me
but not like you know what I mean.


[01:08:08 - 01:08:12] Speaker: But I still think because the old boys
club that that's like my position.


[01:08:13 - 01:08:16] Speaker: At that local station
didn't work out very well,


[01:08:16 - 01:08:19] Speaker: because when you get let go one month
after getting $1,000 bonus.


[01:08:20 - 01:08:23] Speaker: And the next month sloppy board work,
but they also didn't


[01:08:23 - 01:08:26] Speaker: like the way
their listeners sounded on the air.


[01:08:26 - 01:08:26] Speaker: They did?


[01:08:26 - 01:08:29] Speaker: Oh yeah, they didn't like it,
because part of my whole thing,


[01:08:29 - 01:08:31] Speaker: and part of the reason


[01:08:31 - 01:08:34] Speaker: that Scott Lee Downing,
who was another great program director


[01:08:34 - 01:08:37] Speaker: that I had, a wonderful program director,
loved my interaction with people.


[01:08:38 - 01:08:41] Speaker: And, you know, you just have fun with
them, make jokes, you know,


[01:08:44 - 01:08:45] Speaker: Well, they let him go and then.


[01:08:45 - 01:08:48] Speaker: Let me go, you know what I mean?


[01:08:48 - 01:08:51] Speaker: They didn't like the way
the listener sounded on the air.


[01:08:51 - 01:08:52] Speaker: So it's like the mix or. What.


[01:08:52 - 01:08:55] Speaker: A maybe.


[01:08:56 - 01:08:58] Speaker: Some, like,
I feel it's a few that would call.


[01:08:58 - 01:08:59] Speaker: Would sound a little drunk
when they called,


[01:08:59 - 01:09:01] Speaker: even if they were in, Or.


[01:09:01 - 01:09:03] Speaker: Or if they just didn't like the phone
calls.


[01:09:03 - 01:09:04] Speaker: They didn't like the phone calls.


[01:09:04 - 01:09:05] Speaker: I watched listen to an episode.


[01:09:05 - 01:09:08] Speaker: Of Howard Stern where somebody called in
on horse tranquilizers.


[01:09:08 - 01:09:09] Speaker: Really?


[01:09:09 - 01:09:11] Speaker: But it's I we were riveted.


[01:09:11 - 01:09:13] Speaker: I was we were we were at Kim's hospital.


[01:09:13 - 01:09:14] Speaker: My mom's like, what part of.


[01:09:14 - 01:09:16] Speaker: The some of the other people
that weren't drunk,


[01:09:16 - 01:09:18] Speaker: that's just the way they talked
because they had problems.


[01:09:18 - 01:09:20] Speaker: Sure you don't like the way your listeners
sound?


[01:09:20 - 01:09:21] Speaker: So no more phone calls.


[01:09:21 - 01:09:23] Speaker: What?
They're saying is. No more phone calls.


[01:09:23 - 01:09:25] Speaker: What they're saying is
they don't like their audience.


[01:09:26 - 01:09:29] Speaker: They might in my right
and thinking that, sorry, guys, this is.


[01:09:29 - 01:09:30] Speaker: Because we're here.


[01:09:30 - 01:09:32] Speaker: We're up
here, we're better than everybody.


[01:09:32 - 01:09:34] Speaker: You know, you own a newspaper, you own it.


[01:09:34 - 01:09:37] Speaker: Did I say that I love to. I.


[01:09:37 - 01:09:40] Speaker: You own a radio station.


[01:09:40 - 01:09:41] Speaker: You know? So.


[01:09:41 - 01:09:43] Speaker: But these people are beneath us.


[01:09:43 - 01:09:46] Speaker: That's even though that's terrible.


[01:09:46 - 01:09:49] Speaker: This is the same station that the reason.


[01:09:49 - 01:09:50] Speaker: One of the reasons
I think they got rid of Scotland.


[01:09:50 - 01:09:54] Speaker: Downey was because he played
live in love and made by.


[01:09:54 - 01:09:58] Speaker: He put that in that one Zeppelin
and the one owner didn't know


[01:09:58 - 01:10:00] Speaker: what that song was.


[01:10:00 - 01:10:02] Speaker: How do you not know that song?


[01:10:02 - 01:10:04] Speaker: I'm just a Woman.


[01:10:04 - 01:10:06] Speaker: And it's that one.


[01:10:06 - 01:10:08] Speaker: There's only you could almost play
any LED Zeppelin song


[01:10:08 - 01:10:11] Speaker: and you know it's there
and you know it's Zeppelin.


[01:10:11 - 01:10:14] Speaker: And most people will know
that it's Zeppelin, you know?


[01:10:14 - 01:10:15] Speaker: And that's when.


[01:10:15 - 01:10:17] Speaker: I started listening to Zeppelin.


[01:10:17 - 01:10:18] Speaker: I'm like, they're phenomenal.


[01:10:19 - 01:10:22] Speaker: I like, how do you not like.


[01:10:22 - 01:10:23] Speaker: How do you not don't. Yeah.


[01:10:23 - 01:10:26] Speaker: So yeah, that's the way
that's the way it is.


[01:10:26 - 01:10:28] Speaker: It's like I control this.
So I get to tell everything.


[01:10:28 - 01:10:29] Speaker: I tell you my joy.


[01:10:29 - 01:10:31] Speaker: And that's the thing
I always had a problem with, where


[01:10:31 - 01:10:34] Speaker: it's like, let the artists be artists
because I think you're an artist


[01:10:34 - 01:10:36] Speaker: because there's a gift to what you do.
But everybody can't do that.


[01:10:36 - 01:10:37] Speaker: It's a God.


[01:10:37 - 01:10:39] Speaker: Given gift, though. I like,
I remember one.


[01:10:39 - 01:10:40] Speaker: Time was God.


[01:10:40 - 01:10:43] Speaker: One of the things that I early on
in my career, I learned that


[01:10:43 - 01:10:45] Speaker: if and I used to say this


[01:10:45 - 01:10:47] Speaker: like you should talent to do something,
you should use something.


[01:10:47 - 01:10:49] Speaker: You should use that talent to repay them.


[01:10:49 - 01:10:51] Speaker: Absolutely repay him. And


[01:10:53 - 01:10:55] Speaker: then I realized,
oh, wait, you can never repay God.


[01:10:55 - 01:10:56] Speaker: You know, there's.


[01:10:56 - 01:10:58] Speaker: No way
I can never be good enough for doing that.


[01:10:58 - 01:11:00] Speaker: But I like giving.


[01:11:00 - 01:11:03] Speaker: So when I was on 177 Endless Mountains
of Rock and I was doing mornings,


[01:11:04 - 01:11:06] Speaker: I got approached by somebody and asked me,


[01:11:06 - 01:11:09] Speaker: can you do something
with the Special Olympics?


[01:11:09 - 01:11:11] Speaker: And in a small town station, small town,
whatever.


[01:11:11 - 01:11:14] Speaker: I'm like, yeah.


[01:11:14 - 01:11:16] Speaker: I will go and do a live broadcast
from there. I'll get it.


[01:11:16 - 01:11:18] Speaker: You know, I get sponsors if I need to.


[01:11:18 - 01:11:19] Speaker: I don't remember if I did or not.


[01:11:19 - 01:11:22] Speaker: I put on some,
but these kids will love it.


[01:11:22 - 01:11:22] Speaker: Yeah.


[01:11:22 - 01:11:25] Speaker: You know, I had so many parents
thank me for doing that.


[01:11:25 - 01:11:27] Speaker: You will even believe it.


[01:11:27 - 01:11:29] Speaker: Like parents that would in.


[01:11:29 - 01:11:31] Speaker: When I did that show
and mornings in Tunkhannock,


[01:11:31 - 01:11:33] Speaker: I couldn't go anywhere
without people knowing me.


[01:11:33 - 01:11:34] Speaker: And it was Tunkhannock.


[01:11:34 - 01:11:37] Speaker: Yeah, but people were listening
in while listening to Wanda Montrose


[01:11:37 - 01:11:40] Speaker: and some people from Down This Way,
but it didn't have a really.


[01:11:40 - 01:11:42] Speaker: Great signal down this way.


[01:11:42 - 01:11:44] Speaker: I had so many people thank me


[01:11:44 - 01:11:47] Speaker: for doing that
because I made the kids feel special.


[01:11:48 - 01:11:49] Speaker: They thought, you know,
radio was something.


[01:11:49 - 01:11:51] Speaker: You had the microphone,
you talked to them.


[01:11:51 - 01:11:52] Speaker: Kids, you know, kids of you and.


[01:11:52 - 01:11:54] Speaker: You talked about those.
Kids are beautiful, you know?


[01:11:54 - 01:11:59] Speaker: But I had a guy I worked with there
who had a very short with career in radio,


[01:12:00 - 01:12:01] Speaker: who said to.


[01:12:01 - 01:12:02] Speaker: Me when I.


[01:12:02 - 01:12:04] Speaker: Said I was planning on doing it
and I was the operations.


[01:12:04 - 01:12:06] Speaker: Manager of that radio station, too. Okay.


[01:12:06 - 01:12:11] Speaker: So I it was my call when I wanted to do
whatever I could do. It.


[01:12:11 - 01:12:14] Speaker: You can't go and broadcast life
from there.


[01:12:14 - 01:12:15] Speaker: You'll make us the laughing stock.


[01:12:15 - 01:12:17] Speaker: Of the industry.


[01:12:17 - 01:12:19] Speaker: And I'm like. F that guy.


[01:12:19 - 01:12:21] Speaker: I didn't care
about being the laughing stock.


[01:12:21 - 01:12:23] Speaker: I cared. About people.


[01:12:23 - 01:12:24] Speaker: I don't care if people look down on it.


[01:12:24 - 01:12:26] Speaker: That would be their.


[01:12:26 - 01:12:29] Speaker: Problem, not mine.


[01:12:29 - 01:12:31] Speaker: And I am the thank.


[01:12:31 - 01:12:33] Speaker: Yous that I got.


[01:12:33 - 01:12:35] Speaker: From those parents.


[01:12:35 - 01:12:36] Speaker: I can't even, you.


[01:12:36 - 01:12:39] Speaker: Know, it was just so beautiful. Yeah.


[01:12:39 - 01:12:40] Speaker: You know.


[01:12:40 - 01:12:43] Speaker: And I didn't even like
I thought it was the right thing to do,


[01:12:43 - 01:12:44] Speaker: but I didn't even know.


[01:12:44 - 01:12:47] Speaker: How right it was until after I did it.


[01:12:47 - 01:12:49] Speaker: Do you know what I'm saying?


[01:12:49 - 01:12:52] Speaker: Yes. I and I.


[01:12:52 - 01:12:55] Speaker: I just I never did anything for me,


[01:12:56 - 01:12:56] Speaker: even though, like,


[01:12:56 - 01:12:59] Speaker: it's a ego driven kind of business.


[01:13:00 - 01:13:00] Speaker: I like feeling good.


[01:13:00 - 01:13:02] Speaker: And there were people that didn't like me


[01:13:02 - 01:13:05] Speaker: for whatever reasons,
they decided not to like me.


[01:13:06 - 01:13:09] Speaker: One woman was
she could never win a contest on the bare.


[01:13:10 - 01:13:13] Speaker: She literally called me and said,


[01:13:14 - 01:13:16] Speaker: I can't stand listening to your show.


[01:13:16 - 01:13:19] Speaker: I win on every other radio
station, crew station


[01:13:19 - 01:13:22] Speaker: in all these stations,
and I can't win with you.


[01:13:23 - 01:13:24] Speaker: I said, what did you just say?


[01:13:24 - 01:13:27] Speaker: I went on every other radio station
and I can't win with you.


[01:13:28 - 01:13:30] Speaker: And I would just. Contests
that were just fun.


[01:13:30 - 01:13:33] Speaker: Yeah. Like I would. Make let wouldn't.


[01:13:33 - 01:13:35] Speaker: I can't even remember
if some of the things I. Did.


[01:13:35 - 01:13:38] Speaker: They were so crazy
giving away. Tickets to Queens. Right.


[01:13:38 - 01:13:40] Speaker: You got to eat mouse it. You know, it was.


[01:13:40 - 01:13:45] Speaker: But I would do stupid things like
try to purposely make people looks dumb.


[01:13:45 - 01:13:47] Speaker: Like, yeah. Everybody's
along for the ride. Right.


[01:13:47 - 01:13:48] Speaker: It was just.


[01:13:48 - 01:13:52] Speaker: And stuff
that you was actual entertainment.


[01:13:52 - 01:13:53] Speaker: Yeah.


[01:13:53 - 01:13:56] Speaker: I, I used to do a contest
called The Prizes beside the point.


[01:13:56 - 01:13:57] Speaker: Okay.


[01:13:58 - 01:13:59] Speaker: I would


[01:13:59 - 01:14:02] Speaker: either I or one of the lesbians
or strippers that I would bring in.


[01:14:02 - 01:14:06] Speaker: Monday's was Naked Monday, so strippers
would come in on Monday to Thursday night.


[01:14:06 - 01:14:07] Speaker: They'd be. Naked.


[01:14:07 - 01:14:08] Speaker: Okay.


[01:14:08 - 01:14:09] Speaker: Sometimes they would with a.


[01:14:09 - 01:14:11] Speaker: Boob out. Here and there.


[01:14:11 - 01:14:14] Speaker: Just so you know, I'm I was all women.


[01:14:14 - 01:14:18] Speaker: So my husband about the picture of me
doing a live broadcast from a strip


[01:14:18 - 01:14:20] Speaker: joint that he has up in, in the.
I don't ever.


[01:14:20 - 01:14:21] Speaker: Let the kids find that.


[01:14:21 - 01:14:22] Speaker: Please don't let the kids like.


[01:14:22 - 01:14:24] Speaker: How they know.


[01:14:24 - 01:14:26] Speaker: And I just think, God forgive me
because I feel like


[01:14:26 - 01:14:29] Speaker: I've attributed to this craziness
society today.


[01:14:30 - 01:14:31] Speaker: I mean, we to say that we're crazy.


[01:14:31 - 01:14:33] Speaker: It's crazy.


[01:14:33 - 01:14:35] Speaker: Society today.


[01:14:35 - 01:14:36] Speaker: I mean you, you.


[01:14:36 - 01:14:38] Speaker: I mean you're,
you're one of the few people


[01:14:38 - 01:14:41] Speaker: that like realizes it over the last five,
six years.


[01:14:41 - 01:14:44] Speaker: But I got to tell you that
because I really see the changes.


[01:14:44 - 01:14:47] Speaker: And sometimes they say God put you through
so you could actually see later.


[01:14:47 - 01:14:47] Speaker: Yeah.


[01:14:47 - 01:14:50] Speaker: You know, God did give me an audience
and I'm grateful.


[01:14:50 - 01:14:51] Speaker: For them, you know?


[01:14:53 - 01:14:54] Speaker: So, yeah, the picture.


[01:14:54 - 01:14:56] Speaker: That my husband has on the strip club,
but when.


[01:14:56 - 01:14:58] Speaker: I was doing lesbian sex.


[01:14:58 - 01:15:01] Speaker: Talk, I had a guy call me


[01:15:02 - 01:15:05] Speaker: a who was gay,


[01:15:05 - 01:15:09] Speaker: and. He was the nicest kid, and I am,
you know, I'm not anything phobic.


[01:15:09 - 01:15:11] Speaker: Please. Neither am I at all.


[01:15:11 - 01:15:13] Speaker: But he said to. Me,
why don't you do gay sex? Fuck.


[01:15:13 - 01:15:15] Speaker: Why do you have guys talking?


[01:15:15 - 01:15:18] Speaker: And I said, honey, I'm sorry,
but you know as well as I do, guys don't.


[01:15:18 - 01:15:21] Speaker: When it isn't gay. Guys
don't want to sit around talking.


[01:15:21 - 01:15:24] Speaker: You're hearing gay men talk about gay sex.


[01:15:24 - 01:15:25] Speaker: Gay sex? Yeah.


[01:15:25 - 01:15:27] Speaker: I'm sorry, but everybody could listen to.


[01:15:27 - 01:15:30] Speaker: Listening to women talk about.
That was always.


[01:15:30 - 01:15:32] Speaker: That was always this.
Really the weirdest thing?


[01:15:32 - 01:15:34] Speaker: And the kid goes, oh, yeah, you're right.


[01:15:34 - 01:15:37] Speaker: You know, but today.


[01:15:37 - 01:15:39] Speaker: Don't be picketing
outside the radio station.


[01:15:39 - 01:15:40] Speaker: If you didn't I it.


[01:15:40 - 01:15:42] Speaker: Yeah. If you didn't.


[01:15:42 - 01:15:44] Speaker: Do if you didn't do what they demanded
they were, they would be out there.


[01:15:44 - 01:15:46] Speaker: You are the devil right.


[01:15:46 - 01:15:46] Speaker: Yeah.


[01:15:46 - 01:15:49] Speaker: That's that's I tell people it's like I.


[01:15:49 - 01:15:50] Speaker: I have no phobias.


[01:15:50 - 01:15:53] Speaker: I grew up, I was
I was a huge proponent for gay marriage


[01:15:53 - 01:15:55] Speaker: because it's like two reasons.


[01:15:55 - 01:15:58] Speaker: Number one, let them be as miserable
as everyone else. Right?


[01:15:58 - 01:16:01] Speaker: I said that to a lesbian couple once
and they got offended.


[01:16:01 - 01:16:03] Speaker: And I've never talked to them
and they don't talk to me at all anymore.


[01:16:03 - 01:16:05] Speaker: So goddamn it, come on.


[01:16:05 - 01:16:07] Speaker: Yeah, that's what I and that was,
that was a few years ago.


[01:16:07 - 01:16:10] Speaker: And the second
thing was oppression is over.


[01:16:11 - 01:16:12] Speaker: We're all everybody's.


[01:16:12 - 01:16:14] Speaker: Everybody's at ground level.


[01:16:14 - 01:16:16] Speaker: Everybody's in the same place.


[01:16:16 - 01:16:17] Speaker: And I was like, okay, that's great.


[01:16:17 - 01:16:20] Speaker: And then I was like, okay, we've made it.


[01:16:20 - 01:16:22] Speaker: We've we've well, we've we've peaked.


[01:16:22 - 01:16:24] Speaker: And now we're now that's our new plateau.


[01:16:24 - 01:16:25] Speaker: And this is great.


[01:16:25 - 01:16:28] Speaker: And then all of a sudden it wasn't enough.


[01:16:28 - 01:16:31] Speaker: Oh my dad's an architectural engineer
okay.


[01:16:31 - 01:16:35] Speaker: So we grew up around gay people because
there's a lot of gay men and architects.


[01:16:35 - 01:16:37] Speaker: Designers, you know what it really meant?


[01:16:37 - 01:16:41] Speaker: And, so I never like this is normal to me.


[01:16:41 - 01:16:42] Speaker: Like, it doesn't bother me.


[01:16:42 - 01:16:43] Speaker: No. At all.


[01:16:43 - 01:16:46] Speaker: So when people cry
that they don't have as many rights.


[01:16:47 - 01:16:48] Speaker: My father worked for a gay architect.


[01:16:48 - 01:16:50] Speaker: He was a very successful architect.


[01:16:50 - 01:16:51] Speaker: He had a great business.


[01:16:51 - 01:16:54] Speaker: His girlfriend was Lonnie Huang.


[01:16:54 - 01:16:56] Speaker: Jackie. I don't know if that is so.


[01:16:56 - 01:16:59] Speaker: He was, one of the biggest hair salons
in this area.


[01:16:59 - 01:17:02] Speaker: Then he moved to do another area
and he made some.


[01:17:02 - 01:17:05] Speaker: He made something of himself.


[01:17:05 - 01:17:08] Speaker: He worked and he did something.


[01:17:08 - 01:17:10] Speaker: He wasn't held back. He wasn't oppressed.


[01:17:10 - 01:17:12] Speaker: He did.


[01:17:12 - 01:17:13] Speaker: He was very successful.


[01:17:13 - 01:17:18] Speaker: So why are you crying that you don't have
something that everybody else has?


[01:17:18 - 01:17:19] Speaker: Because you do.


[01:17:19 - 01:17:21] Speaker: And more you were able to do this.


[01:17:21 - 01:17:24] Speaker: You build a very successful business.


[01:17:25 - 01:17:27] Speaker: I was shocked he was down on the exterior
and that's why you probably don't.


[01:17:27 - 01:17:29] Speaker: This is one of the most hoity. Yeah.


[01:17:30 - 01:17:33] Speaker: But it was one of the most successful
hair salons.


[01:17:33 - 01:17:37] Speaker: He was a great hairdresser,
you know, like I don't.


[01:17:37 - 01:17:40] Speaker: And the architect
that my father worked for now,


[01:17:40 - 01:17:43] Speaker: he was one of the first people
in northeast PA.


[01:17:43 - 01:17:46] Speaker: To die of Aids,
if not the first that we know of.


[01:17:49 - 01:17:53] Speaker: He, So when I worked at


[01:17:54 - 01:17:55] Speaker: Elkhart back in the early.


[01:17:55 - 01:17:58] Speaker: Days when the local owners owned it.


[01:17:59 - 01:18:01] Speaker: We were told I was running Larry King at.


[01:18:01 - 01:18:03] Speaker: Night,


[01:18:03 - 01:18:03] Speaker: and we.


[01:18:03 - 01:18:06] Speaker: Were told under no uncertain circumstances
could.


[01:18:06 - 01:18:09] Speaker: We run the Aids sales


[01:18:09 - 01:18:12] Speaker: because we weren't allowed to run them


[01:18:13 - 01:18:16] Speaker: because the Valley wasn't ready for it.


[01:18:16 - 01:18:19] Speaker: So we had to cover them
with something else.


[01:18:20 - 01:18:23] Speaker: There were times and I was


[01:18:23 - 01:18:26] Speaker: I was 18 back then, 18, 19.


[01:18:26 - 01:18:29] Speaker: And so so it's like 20
when I worked at the museum.


[01:18:29 - 01:18:31] Speaker: I get my age
and I everything runs together.


[01:18:35 - 01:18:37] Speaker: I didn't think I should have just got up
and said, I quit.


[01:18:37 - 01:18:40] Speaker: I'm not doing this
because I, we know somebody with Aids.


[01:18:40 - 01:18:43] Speaker: Yeah.
You know how when you meet, it's here.


[01:18:44 - 01:18:44] Speaker: What do you mean?


[01:18:44 - 01:18:47] Speaker: The Valley's not ready to hear about it?


[01:18:47 - 01:18:50] Speaker: This man had Aids,


[01:18:50 - 01:18:53] Speaker: you know, but we weren't ready for it.


[01:18:53 - 01:18:54] Speaker: I think.


[01:18:54 - 01:18:56] Speaker: I think because of that,


[01:18:56 - 01:18:59] Speaker: maybe that's why you're like.


[01:18:59 - 01:19:00] Speaker: And it makes sense.


[01:19:00 - 01:19:03] Speaker: Because. Because you know.


[01:19:03 - 01:19:05] Speaker: That. What they're saying.


[01:19:05 - 01:19:06] Speaker: Is bullshit.


[01:19:06 - 01:19:07] Speaker: I learned at an. Early.


[01:19:07 - 01:19:12] Speaker: Age that we're lied to,
and we're only given half truths.


[01:19:12 - 01:19:14] Speaker: And other people can decide
what you're ready to hear


[01:19:14 - 01:19:16] Speaker: and when I'm ready, you're ready to hear.


[01:19:16 - 01:19:18] Speaker: Like I'm told I'm not.


[01:19:18 - 01:19:20] Speaker: I'm told that I can't tell somebody.


[01:19:20 - 01:19:21] Speaker: That it's not. Necessary.


[01:19:21 - 01:19:22] Speaker: That you take radiation.


[01:19:22 - 01:19:24] Speaker: If the cancer doesn't.


[01:19:24 - 01:19:26] Speaker: It for certain cancers.


[01:19:26 - 01:19:28] Speaker: Now, hey, listen,
I'm not telling you not to take it.


[01:19:28 - 01:19:30] Speaker: I'm telling you it's not necessary.


[01:19:30 - 01:19:33] Speaker: And I'm telling you
to also do your own research.


[01:19:34 - 01:19:36] Speaker: Research, research, research.


[01:19:37 - 01:19:38] Speaker: That's it.


[01:19:38 - 01:19:40] Speaker: God gives you wisdom.


[01:19:40 - 01:19:42] Speaker: Knowledge and discernment.


[01:19:42 - 01:19:45] Speaker: You need to learn how to use it.


[01:19:45 - 01:19:48] Speaker: And believe me,
I think God tells a lot of people stuff.


[01:19:48 - 01:19:49] Speaker: I do too.


[01:19:49 - 01:19:53] Speaker: But we let the world
the commercials on TV,


[01:19:53 - 01:19:58] Speaker: people who talk like the PhDs
and the talk above us


[01:19:59 - 01:20:01] Speaker: so that we


[01:20:01 - 01:20:02] Speaker: don't know what you're talking about.


[01:20:02 - 01:20:03] Speaker: Nicotine. Right?


[01:20:03 - 01:20:06] Speaker: So my son had seizures


[01:20:06 - 01:20:11] Speaker: when he was between the ages of it was
a couple months before his sixth birthday.


[01:20:12 - 01:20:15] Speaker: And he was 11 years old.


[01:20:15 - 01:20:17] Speaker: Where he was a couple months
before his sixth birthday, and he was 11,


[01:20:17 - 01:20:17] Speaker: you know.


[01:20:17 - 01:20:20] Speaker: And. 11. Years old between those years.


[01:20:20 - 01:20:21] Speaker: Okay, okay, okay.


[01:20:21 - 01:20:22] Speaker: All right. Okay.


[01:20:22 - 01:20:25] Speaker: And one month after he was 11, that's it.


[01:20:25 - 01:20:28] Speaker: So between 6 and 11. Okay. All right.


[01:20:30 - 01:20:31] Speaker: They couldn't
tell me what part of the brain


[01:20:31 - 01:20:33] Speaker: they were coming from,
why he was getting them.


[01:20:33 - 01:20:35] Speaker: They couldn't answer simple questions.


[01:20:35 - 01:20:36] Speaker: But here, try this medicine.


[01:20:36 - 01:20:39] Speaker: I did my research. I do my research.


[01:20:39 - 01:20:40] Speaker: You put them on the wrong medicine.


[01:20:40 - 01:20:42] Speaker: You can make those seizures worse.


[01:20:42 - 01:20:44] Speaker: Yeah. If you give them the wrong medicine
for the wrong.


[01:20:44 - 01:20:47] Speaker: Reason, seizures could become worse.


[01:20:47 - 01:20:48] Speaker: So wouldn't you want to.


[01:20:48 - 01:20:51] Speaker: Constantly fight with. Doctors?


[01:20:51 - 01:20:51] Speaker: That.


[01:20:51 - 01:20:54] Speaker: We ended up doing,


[01:20:54 - 01:20:56] Speaker: Well, Jonathan Hopkins.


[01:20:56 - 01:20:57] Speaker: In Baltimore.


[01:20:57 - 01:20:59] Speaker: Referred us back to Geisinger,


[01:20:59 - 01:21:02] Speaker: who had him listed as a six year
old female patient named Nicholas.


[01:21:02 - 01:21:05] Speaker: When his name is Trevor.
Oh, good. You know,


[01:21:05 - 01:21:07] Speaker: yeah. Right.
It can't even be his name. Right?


[01:21:07 - 01:21:09] Speaker: A female patient, like.


[01:21:09 - 01:21:12] Speaker: So maybe that whole transgender
thing started way before we know.


[01:21:12 - 01:21:12] Speaker: Yeah.


[01:21:13 - 01:21:16] Speaker: He is 21 now.


[01:21:16 - 01:21:17] Speaker: Is he still a boy?


[01:21:17 - 01:21:20] Speaker: The the just the crazy. Yes. He is.


[01:21:20 - 01:21:22] Speaker: This is he is this.


[01:21:22 - 01:21:26] Speaker: Crazy doctor who said to us
when I asked her about food.


[01:21:26 - 01:21:29] Speaker: Right. Well. I have nutrition, weight.


[01:21:29 - 01:21:31] Speaker: Nutrition, stuff
that you ingest into your body.


[01:21:31 - 01:21:34] Speaker: Yeah, because there were certain foods
that I thought sent him over,


[01:21:34 - 01:21:36] Speaker: I wanted confirmation.


[01:21:36 - 01:21:38] Speaker: I do think it was some preservatives.


[01:21:38 - 01:21:41] Speaker: I also think
it was a build up in the body.


[01:21:41 - 01:21:42] Speaker: Not necessarily.


[01:21:42 - 01:21:45] Speaker: Okay,
you're going to drink that water right now


[01:21:45 - 01:21:47] Speaker: and get a seizure
because you drank that water. Yeah.


[01:21:47 - 01:21:48] Speaker: All right.


[01:21:48 - 01:21:49] Speaker: Cumulatively. Though. Right.


[01:21:49 - 01:21:54] Speaker: But but if you had Pringles,
potato chips and,


[01:21:55 - 01:21:56] Speaker: something else.


[01:21:56 - 01:21:58] Speaker: Over the carry to time uncle's. In there.


[01:21:58 - 01:21:59] Speaker: And how it builds up in your body.


[01:22:01 - 01:22:01] Speaker: I mean, it makes.


[01:22:01 - 01:22:04] Speaker: Sense to me. Yeah.


[01:22:04 - 01:22:06] Speaker: She said, well,
I have a parent whose son has a seizure


[01:22:06 - 01:22:09] Speaker: every time the moon is full.


[01:22:09 - 01:22:11] Speaker: And lo
and behold, your rating on the calendar.


[01:22:11 - 01:22:15] Speaker: And every time the moon's full,
the son has a seizure.


[01:22:15 - 01:22:16] Speaker: But I highly.


[01:22:16 - 01:22:19] Speaker: Doubt the moon has anything to do with it.


[01:22:19 - 01:22:19] Speaker: And I thought to myself, well,


[01:22:19 - 01:22:22] Speaker: you might want to look into that,
because they do say certain things.


[01:22:23 - 01:22:24] Speaker: The moon effects, number one.


[01:22:24 - 01:22:27] Speaker: If look, if it can affect
all the oceans of the planet.


[01:22:27 - 01:22:28] Speaker: Right.


[01:22:28 - 01:22:31] Speaker: So I think to myself, but I also am like,


[01:22:32 - 01:22:36] Speaker: hold on, I'm talking about food
that he's ingesting into his body.


[01:22:36 - 01:22:38] Speaker: And you're talking about the full moon.
Yeah. You know.


[01:22:38 - 01:22:40] Speaker: Apples and oranges I don't.


[01:22:40 - 01:22:41] Speaker: Well, I think she was dismissing you.


[01:22:41 - 01:22:45] Speaker: And then she said,
I've been doing this since 1994.


[01:22:46 - 01:22:47] Speaker: Right.


[01:22:47 - 01:22:51] Speaker: So I, his pediatrician kept
saying to me, you're a smoker.


[01:22:51 - 01:22:52] Speaker: You're a smoker.


[01:22:52 - 01:22:54] Speaker: And I'm like, yeah, you keep asking that.


[01:22:54 - 01:22:56] Speaker: And I don't, but you know that.
But I don't smoke in my house.


[01:22:56 - 01:22:58] Speaker: I don't smoke in the car around the kids.


[01:22:58 - 01:22:59] Speaker: Yeah, it stays on your clothes.


[01:22:59 - 01:23:02] Speaker: And I'm like, that sounds nutty.


[01:23:02 - 01:23:06] Speaker: Then the naked smell on my clothes
are going to cause make a seizure.


[01:23:06 - 01:23:09] Speaker: So I one day I thought,
okay, I'm not going to dismiss this.


[01:23:09 - 01:23:10] Speaker: I'm going to go research it.


[01:23:11 - 01:23:12] Speaker: I find a


[01:23:12 - 01:23:15] Speaker: type of epilepsy, autosomal frontal lobe
epilepsy.


[01:23:16 - 01:23:17] Speaker: All right.


[01:23:17 - 01:23:18] Speaker: That is.


[01:23:18 - 01:23:22] Speaker: Common in like 1 in 100.


[01:23:22 - 01:23:24] Speaker: Families that have epilepsy.


[01:23:24 - 01:23:25] Speaker: It wasn't all that common.


[01:23:25 - 01:23:26] Speaker: Yeah.


[01:23:26 - 01:23:29] Speaker: It was like whatever,


[01:23:29 - 01:23:30] Speaker: Is rare. Rare.


[01:23:30 - 01:23:33] Speaker: They would get these little tremors
at night.


[01:23:33 - 01:23:34] Speaker: That weren't, were.


[01:23:34 - 01:23:37] Speaker: Detectable on an EEG.


[01:23:39 - 01:23:42] Speaker: They and everything lined up to where.


[01:23:42 - 01:23:43] Speaker: Yeah, my son. Was having it.


[01:23:43 - 01:23:46] Speaker: Every single thing.


[01:23:47 - 01:23:48] Speaker: You want to know what.


[01:23:48 - 01:23:51] Speaker: The the the, cure for that was?


[01:23:51 - 01:23:52] Speaker: I'm riveted.


[01:23:52 - 01:23:54] Speaker: Nicotine


[01:23:54 - 01:23:55] Speaker: to give him gum or the patch.


[01:23:55 - 01:23:58] Speaker: So I'm looking to see if. Well.


[01:23:58 - 01:24:02] Speaker: He happened to shortly after that
start hanging out at my neighbor's house,


[01:24:03 - 01:24:04] Speaker: and my neighbor was letting.


[01:24:04 - 01:24:05] Speaker: Him chew tobacco.


[01:24:05 - 01:24:08] Speaker: And I didn't know that. But the seizures.


[01:24:08 - 01:24:09] Speaker: So now I'll never know the truth,


[01:24:09 - 01:24:12] Speaker: because there's a couple other things,
like rebuking demons.


[01:24:12 - 01:24:13] Speaker: But we won't talk about that
rebuking demon.


[01:24:13 - 01:24:15] Speaker: That will be another show.


[01:24:16 - 01:24:17] Speaker: I'm not laughing at it.


[01:24:17 - 01:24:19] Speaker: Oh, laughing it
because I don't think it's true.


[01:24:19 - 01:24:20] Speaker: I'm laughing at it because it was.


[01:24:20 - 01:24:23] Speaker: Because you kind of threw it in there
like it could have been,


[01:24:23 - 01:24:24] Speaker: you know what I mean?


[01:24:24 - 01:24:25] Speaker: I'll never. Know.


[01:24:25 - 01:24:28] Speaker: But for God, he my daughter.


[01:24:28 - 01:24:30] Speaker: I should have my daughter here
to clarify. This with me, okay.


[01:24:30 - 01:24:31] Speaker: Because I did.


[01:24:31 - 01:24:33] Speaker: I got so sick of it. One night


[01:24:33 - 01:24:35] Speaker: I rebuked demons


[01:24:35 - 01:24:39] Speaker: and he got up running
while having a seizure yelling, no, no,


[01:24:39 - 01:24:42] Speaker: no, really.


[01:24:42 - 01:24:45] Speaker: He. That was the first time
he didn't have seizures for four months.


[01:24:45 - 01:24:47] Speaker: I don't tell anybody. The story
and I don't talk about it out. Loud.


[01:24:47 - 01:24:48] Speaker: I mean, when I was, I told.


[01:24:48 - 01:24:51] Speaker: My husband, well,


[01:24:51 - 01:24:53] Speaker: so I have a way.


[01:24:54 - 01:24:55] Speaker: Okay.


[01:24:55 - 01:24:57] Speaker: So yeah. Yeah.


[01:24:57 - 01:24:59] Speaker: He doesn't have seizures for four months.


[01:24:59 - 01:25:05] Speaker: He gets them again I did I thought
I rebuked you demons in Jesus name.


[01:25:05 - 01:25:06] Speaker: Right.


[01:25:06 - 01:25:09] Speaker: That was the last time were ran seizure.


[01:25:09 - 01:25:10] Speaker: But he also did lymphatic massage.


[01:25:10 - 01:25:15] Speaker: At the time he was also chewing tobacco
at my neighbor's house.


[01:25:16 - 01:25:19] Speaker: But I think I
to be absolutely honest with you.


[01:25:19 - 01:25:22] Speaker: And when he started talking back later,
my grandfather chewed tobacco at eight.


[01:25:22 - 01:25:23] Speaker: Yeah.


[01:25:23 - 01:25:26] Speaker: The whole thing with it being the.


[01:25:27 - 01:25:29] Speaker: So this would probably.


[01:25:29 - 01:25:30] Speaker: Be another show for us to do.


[01:25:30 - 01:25:31] Speaker: I'd love to have you back.


[01:25:31 - 01:25:34] Speaker: Because the tarot,
there was a tarot card reader that I.


[01:25:35 - 01:25:37] Speaker: The tarot did not read
tarot cards in my house. Okay.


[01:25:37 - 01:25:41] Speaker: She was a wicked, a Wiccan friend of mine
because I thought we could all coexist.


[01:25:41 - 01:25:42] Speaker: We can't.


[01:25:42 - 01:25:45] Speaker: We open portals to hell. Yes, all right.


[01:25:45 - 01:25:46] Speaker: Even if you.


[01:25:46 - 01:25:47] Speaker: Think you're the Good Witch of the.


[01:25:47 - 01:25:50] Speaker: West, we're opening portals to hell. Yeah,


[01:25:51 - 01:25:52] Speaker: she did


[01:25:52 - 01:25:55] Speaker: tarot card readings


[01:25:55 - 01:25:57] Speaker: in my sunroom
when I was doing. An internet.


[01:25:57 - 01:26:00] Speaker: Radio show for a short period of time.


[01:26:00 - 01:26:03] Speaker: Sunroom adjacent to my kids room.


[01:26:04 - 01:26:05] Speaker: Dark seven seasons.


[01:26:05 - 01:26:08] Speaker: After she looked. At him when he started
having seizures and she told me was.


[01:26:08 - 01:26:10] Speaker: Special.


[01:26:10 - 01:26:12] Speaker: Okay, he is a child of God.


[01:26:12 - 01:26:13] Speaker: He is not special to her.


[01:26:13 - 01:26:15] Speaker: He's a child of God. Right?


[01:26:15 - 01:26:17] Speaker: So I get mad at that now.


[01:26:17 - 01:26:19] Speaker: Like I didn't think about it before then.


[01:26:19 - 01:26:22] Speaker: These are people that ended up back
stabbing me in the two,


[01:26:22 - 01:26:25] Speaker: usually later in which she's so nice.


[01:26:25 - 01:26:28] Speaker: Yeah. And,


[01:26:28 - 01:26:29] Speaker: Yeah.


[01:26:29 - 01:26:33] Speaker: So can I hit the smoking thing
for a second here or the nicotine thing?


[01:26:33 - 01:26:34] Speaker: Yeah. Yeah. We can we.


[01:26:34 - 01:26:37] Speaker: Could go back to the nicotine thing
and cut out this part. Maybe the.


[01:26:37 - 01:26:38] Speaker: Final cut. I, you know,


[01:26:40 - 01:26:41] Speaker: I don't want I think I love you.


[01:26:41 - 01:26:44] Speaker: I'm not, I'm not, not I'm not.
I don't think you are.


[01:26:44 - 01:26:45] Speaker: I don't. Think you are at. All.


[01:26:45 - 01:26:47] Speaker: But to know whatever the truth is, it is.


[01:26:47 - 01:26:50] Speaker: But for. God, we all,
we all have these people that we talk.


[01:26:50 - 01:26:52] Speaker: To where they
where they try to tell us about things


[01:26:52 - 01:26:55] Speaker: that sound absolutely nutty
and they totally believe it.


[01:26:55 - 01:26:59] Speaker: And I really think that there are things,
I think there's things out there


[01:26:59 - 01:27:00] Speaker: that live in this world.


[01:27:00 - 01:27:05] Speaker: Let's just call it the metaphysical that
we can't explain, we can't understand.


[01:27:05 - 01:27:07] Speaker: And physics. There's a lot of stuff.


[01:27:07 - 01:27:08] Speaker: Hold on, son, it's my daughter.


[01:27:08 - 01:27:10] Speaker: Let me call you back in, like, 15 minutes.


[01:27:10 - 01:27:13] Speaker: All right? 20 minutes. What?


[01:27:15 - 01:27:16] Speaker: What?


[01:27:16 - 01:27:19] Speaker: My Pfizer for what?


[01:27:22 - 01:27:23] Speaker: Let me I don't know.


[01:27:23 - 01:27:26] Speaker: I'm in the middle
of doing a podcast, though, so I love you.


[01:27:28 - 01:27:31] Speaker: She's looking to raid my refrigerator.


[01:27:31 - 01:27:33] Speaker: She has her own apartment.
But these are all important.


[01:27:33 - 01:27:35] Speaker: These are all important things,
right? We're learning.


[01:27:35 - 01:27:39] Speaker: If you remember,
when they were giving at the.


[01:27:39 - 01:27:44] Speaker: Beginning of the vaccine,
the Covid vaccine stuff, which was,


[01:27:44 - 01:27:48] Speaker: I believe December
into January of 2020, 2021.


[01:27:48 - 01:27:51] Speaker: Did you notice
something that I found really strange


[01:27:52 - 01:27:54] Speaker: was that they offered it to the elderly.


[01:27:54 - 01:27:55] Speaker: So like the first


[01:27:55 - 01:27:58] Speaker: or the first responders are not the first
responders are frontline workers.


[01:27:58 - 01:28:01] Speaker: That's what they call them, the elderly.


[01:28:01 - 01:28:04] Speaker: And then like the immunocompromised
and smokers.


[01:28:05 - 01:28:07] Speaker: Do you remember that? Yeah.


[01:28:07 - 01:28:11] Speaker: And I always I always thought to myself,
why would smokers be on that list?


[01:28:12 - 01:28:13] Speaker: I always made me curious.


[01:28:15 - 01:28:15] Speaker: And then


[01:28:15 - 01:28:18] Speaker: I started listening to this doctor name
I believe is Byron


[01:28:19 - 01:28:20] Speaker: Brittle. Maybe not.


[01:28:20 - 01:28:22] Speaker: Maybe that one sounds familiar.


[01:28:22 - 01:28:25] Speaker: And he has this whole theory about the


[01:28:25 - 01:28:28] Speaker: the nicotine receptors in the body.


[01:28:28 - 01:28:31] Speaker: And I was like, wait a second,
nicotine isn't just in a plant


[01:28:31 - 01:28:32] Speaker: and it's an eggplants.


[01:28:32 - 01:28:35] Speaker: It's an all these vegetables
that there's nicotine.


[01:28:35 - 01:28:37] Speaker: And I did not realize that.


[01:28:37 - 01:28:39] Speaker: And I can't tell you
how many people I would smoke.


[01:28:39 - 01:28:40] Speaker: I've done my research.


[01:28:40 - 01:28:43] Speaker: I've known a lot of people that smoke
that were like, I really didn't get.


[01:28:43 - 01:28:45] Speaker: Covid behind it. Yeah.


[01:28:45 - 01:28:48] Speaker: I only I had it for about four hours.


[01:28:48 - 01:28:48] Speaker: That was it.


[01:28:48 - 01:28:51] Speaker: The only way it
and it felt incredibly artificial.


[01:28:51 - 01:28:53] Speaker: Did you have it at all?


[01:28:53 - 01:28:55] Speaker: The best way for me to describe it
is it felt artificial.


[01:28:55 - 01:28:57] Speaker: So if and it hurt the back of my eyes.


[01:28:57 - 01:29:00] Speaker: So I used to get a respiratory infection.


[01:29:00 - 01:29:02] Speaker: Like,
you see, I'm losing my voice right now.


[01:29:02 - 01:29:04] Speaker: Like, if you say this. Yeah, yeah.


[01:29:04 - 01:29:07] Speaker: Well, it's I'm dehydrate.
I know that. Now.


[01:29:07 - 01:29:08] Speaker: I have to go see. Well, I got more water.


[01:29:08 - 01:29:10] Speaker: I need somebody to hook me up with an ivy,
which I'm.


[01:29:10 - 01:29:11] Speaker: My. Sister, I know.


[01:29:11 - 01:29:15] Speaker: Yeah, I, I have to figure out
if our insurance can pay.


[01:29:16 - 01:29:17] Speaker: Might pay for. It.
I don't think it will. Yeah.


[01:29:17 - 01:29:19] Speaker: They don't. Cover it. I found out because.


[01:29:19 - 01:29:21] Speaker: It can help you.
I'll talk to you about that later affair.


[01:29:21 - 01:29:23] Speaker: All right. But.


[01:29:25 - 01:29:26] Speaker: I would get this respiratory infection,


[01:29:26 - 01:29:30] Speaker: like, 2 or 3 times a year
because I am a smoker, I think.


[01:29:30 - 01:29:33] Speaker: I think now I'm going to say
because I'm a smoker.


[01:29:33 - 01:29:36] Speaker: That was really, really bad.


[01:29:38 - 01:29:39] Speaker: I would have to call it out.


[01:29:39 - 01:29:41] Speaker: Or maybe I was just dehydrated
because. There's.


[01:29:41 - 01:29:42] Speaker: A lot to that.


[01:29:42 - 01:29:45] Speaker: To to that
with losing the voice and stuff.


[01:29:45 - 01:29:46] Speaker: But yeah, raspy and stuff.


[01:29:46 - 01:29:51] Speaker: So that December I was actually working
for Pay Somebody something.


[01:29:51 - 01:29:54] Speaker: It was a Republican.


[01:29:54 - 01:29:55] Speaker: Leaning.


[01:29:55 - 01:29:58] Speaker: Group where I was getting people, getting
people in front of the Steamtown Mall


[01:29:58 - 01:30:01] Speaker: because I was working part time for them
and part time radio station and


[01:30:02 - 01:30:03] Speaker: I. Yeah.


[01:30:03 - 01:30:05] Speaker: So I think that's what.
I was doing at that point.


[01:30:05 - 01:30:07] Speaker: Getting people to register to vote.


[01:30:08 - 01:30:09] Speaker: So in at the.


[01:30:09 - 01:30:12] Speaker: Peak of Covid, yeah.


[01:30:12 - 01:30:16] Speaker: I am in front of the Steamtown Mall
with all those bus people, people getting


[01:30:16 - 01:30:21] Speaker: in and on and off the busses from New York
and everywhere signing people up.


[01:30:22 - 01:30:24] Speaker: So that year I was


[01:30:24 - 01:30:27] Speaker: more sick than ever with


[01:30:28 - 01:30:33] Speaker: this respiratory infection still working,
though they didn't want to take me out.


[01:30:33 - 01:30:36] Speaker: Yeah, no days off. No days off.


[01:30:36 - 01:30:39] Speaker: I didn't test for it at the time
because it was, I think, early on


[01:30:39 - 01:30:42] Speaker: in the Covid thing,
but I haven't had a respiratory infection.


[01:30:42 - 01:30:43] Speaker: Since.


[01:30:43 - 01:30:45] Speaker: We heard it.


[01:30:45 - 01:30:46] Speaker: The it's. So weird.


[01:30:46 - 01:30:48] Speaker: It's crazy.


[01:30:48 - 01:30:52] Speaker: Like, although I do think to a certain
extent that God does reward the faithful.


[01:30:53 - 01:30:55] Speaker: Let's Oh, I think you're right.


[01:30:55 - 01:30:56] Speaker: I think you're right.


[01:30:56 - 01:30:58] Speaker: I shouldn't say
I shouldn't say that and laugh.


[01:30:58 - 01:30:59] Speaker: I shouldn't laugh, but I started.


[01:30:59 - 01:31:03] Speaker: I started Covid as an agnostic
and now I'm like, there's something,


[01:31:03 - 01:31:04] Speaker: there's something out.


[01:31:04 - 01:31:06] Speaker: There is something I don't understand.


[01:31:06 - 01:31:07] Speaker: Realizing that God created.


[01:31:07 - 01:31:09] Speaker: Your body,
he created it to do certain things.


[01:31:09 - 01:31:11] Speaker: And he did. There's like, this is


[01:31:12 - 01:31:13] Speaker: my whole


[01:31:13 - 01:31:16] Speaker: story is like, I
don't know if I was this close, I wasn't.


[01:31:16 - 01:31:18] Speaker: I wasn't this close to God before.


[01:31:18 - 01:31:20] Speaker: I always believed in God,


[01:31:20 - 01:31:23] Speaker: but now it's more real
than I've ever seen it


[01:31:24 - 01:31:26] Speaker: in my life.


[01:31:26 - 01:31:29] Speaker: The and once you read it
and I said to somebody today.


[01:31:29 - 01:31:32] Speaker: There's a lot of stuff in that Bible
that is so true.


[01:31:32 - 01:31:34] Speaker: And so George Lucas says he goes, he goes.


[01:31:34 - 01:31:37] Speaker: The whole Bible is the. Blueprint
for how to run your life, right?


[01:31:37 - 01:31:38] Speaker: Exactly.


[01:31:38 - 01:31:41] Speaker: It's how you handle law. It's
how you handle government.


[01:31:41 - 01:31:42] Speaker: It's everything.


[01:31:42 - 01:31:45] Speaker: I can't help
but believe that there is this eternity.


[01:31:46 - 01:31:49] Speaker: Sure, that's written about in this Bible


[01:31:49 - 01:31:51] Speaker: because everything.


[01:31:51 - 01:31:54] Speaker: And it's almost eerie
when you see how true stuff is.


[01:31:55 - 01:31:58] Speaker: I was going to pull up Ephesians six
when you were talking.


[01:31:58 - 01:32:02] Speaker: About, because you probably don't
know what Ephesians six it knows.


[01:32:03 - 01:32:05] Speaker: And six I mean.


[01:32:05 - 01:32:07] Speaker: I'm I'm not the guy that does
that. You have to read it.


[01:32:07 - 01:32:08] Speaker: You have glasses.


[01:32:08 - 01:32:10] Speaker: I have a pretty good eyesight, I think.


[01:32:10 - 01:32:12] Speaker: For the right verse. And if. You.


[01:32:12 - 01:32:15] Speaker: Their children obey
your parents is in Ephesians six.


[01:32:15 - 01:32:18] Speaker: Fathers, do. Not, exasperate slaves.


[01:32:18 - 01:32:19] Speaker: Obey your master.


[01:32:19 - 01:32:21] Speaker: Which is where all slaves today.


[01:32:21 - 01:32:23] Speaker: Just in case you want to say the Bible
condones slavery.


[01:32:23 - 01:32:25] Speaker: We're all slaves.


[01:32:25 - 01:32:28] Speaker: Were slaves to corporate America.


[01:32:28 - 01:32:30] Speaker: We're slaves to the government.


[01:32:30 - 01:32:32] Speaker: Paying our taxes were slaves.


[01:32:32 - 01:32:34] Speaker: I'm. I disagree with you.


[01:32:34 - 01:32:35] Speaker: I'll let you know
when I disagree with you.


[01:32:35 - 01:32:36] Speaker: Okay.


[01:32:36 - 01:32:37] Speaker: And masters treat your slaves.


[01:32:37 - 01:32:40] Speaker: And we're also prisoners, because when
we walk out of our house, it's dangerous.


[01:32:41 - 01:32:42] Speaker: Seriously?


[01:32:42 - 01:32:45] Speaker: Yeah. All right.


[01:32:45 - 01:32:47] Speaker: It's highlighted kind of in the gray.


[01:32:47 - 01:32:48] Speaker: Put on the full armor.


[01:32:51 - 01:32:52] Speaker: Put on the full armor of


[01:32:52 - 01:32:55] Speaker: God so that you can take your stand
against the devil's schemes.


[01:32:55 - 01:32:59] Speaker: For our struggle is not against flesh
and blood, but against the rulers,


[01:32:59 - 01:33:02] Speaker: against the authorities,
against the powers of this dark world


[01:33:02 - 01:33:06] Speaker: and against against the spiritual forces
of evil in the heavenly realms


[01:33:07 - 01:33:08] Speaker: to make you going.


[01:33:08 - 01:33:11] Speaker: That's good.


[01:33:11 - 01:33:14] Speaker: And the more you live
in, the more you see what's going on.


[01:33:14 - 01:33:17] Speaker: It's wild. It's how could this be real?


[01:33:17 - 01:33:21] Speaker: That we have people walking around
with outrageous opinions.


[01:33:22 - 01:33:25] Speaker: And yet those of us going, now,
if you were born a boy or boy,


[01:33:25 - 01:33:27] Speaker: if you you're born a girl, you're girl.
Yeah.


[01:33:27 - 01:33:28] Speaker: Do you know what I mean?


[01:33:28 - 01:33:29] Speaker: Like, yeah.


[01:33:29 - 01:33:31] Speaker: And I shouldn't say outrageous
things, but no. God,


[01:33:32 - 01:33:33] Speaker: there was


[01:33:33 - 01:33:36] Speaker: no mistakes
if you were born with certain things.


[01:33:36 - 01:33:40] Speaker: And if I'm made to give birth,
which is a very important job


[01:33:40 - 01:33:43] Speaker: that we've downplayed,
how did we come to this.


[01:33:43 - 01:33:46] Speaker: Point where people think that? Well.


[01:33:46 - 01:33:49] Speaker: I'm just if I don't want to have the baby,
I don't have it.


[01:33:49 - 01:33:52] Speaker: And if I have like, like you're
thrown food away from a refrigerator like


[01:33:52 - 01:33:57] Speaker: it's crazy, you know, it's it's not
I don't like how do we get here?


[01:33:57 - 01:33:58] Speaker: You know why?


[01:33:58 - 01:33:59] Speaker: Because of the spiritual realm.


[01:33:59 - 01:34:02] Speaker: There's no way you.
Can explain anything else.


[01:34:02 - 01:34:03] Speaker: And it was.


[01:34:03 - 01:34:05] Speaker: I think part of it is.


[01:34:05 - 01:34:07] Speaker: And I think you're right, and I.


[01:34:07 - 01:34:07] Speaker: But I think it's like.


[01:34:07 - 01:34:10] Speaker: It's like


[01:34:10 - 01:34:11] Speaker: it's like most things in life.


[01:34:11 - 01:34:13] Speaker: It's not. It's not this one thing.


[01:34:13 - 01:34:17] Speaker: It's these couple of things together
that creates like the recipe.


[01:34:17 - 01:34:19] Speaker: Because I say this lack.


[01:34:19 - 01:34:22] Speaker: Of trust in God put it


[01:34:22 - 01:34:25] Speaker: too much trust in man.


[01:34:26 - 01:34:29] Speaker: Because
we trust that, oh, your child has ADHD.


[01:34:29 - 01:34:34] Speaker: Now, your child is a boy
who's a little hyperactive


[01:34:34 - 01:34:37] Speaker: because for centuries
boys have been a little hyperactive.


[01:34:37 - 01:34:39] Speaker: Yeah, you don't need to put them.


[01:34:39 - 01:34:42] Speaker: On medicine at the risk
of offending anybody about that.


[01:34:42 - 01:34:43] Speaker: You don't need to put them
on the same medicines


[01:34:43 - 01:34:46] Speaker: that the Germans used to invade Poland.


[01:34:47 - 01:34:50] Speaker: I mean, that's what we're giving them.


[01:34:50 - 01:34:52] Speaker: Like that's sorry. That's what Ritalin is.


[01:34:52 - 01:34:53] Speaker: It's meth.


[01:34:53 - 01:34:57] Speaker: You know, I don't I don't look,
if any kid who had attention deficit,


[01:34:57 - 01:35:01] Speaker: whatever that means, if any kid had that
and you were like, here's the.


[01:35:01 - 01:35:03] Speaker: Treatment, here's what I mean. Meth.


[01:35:03 - 01:35:06] Speaker: I couldn't operate if I didn't have
attention deficit disorder.


[01:35:06 - 01:35:07] Speaker: There's a there's.


[01:35:07 - 01:35:08] Speaker: Some people who make it a.


[01:35:08 - 01:35:11] Speaker: Superpower,
you know, that's the simple power.


[01:35:11 - 01:35:13] Speaker: And that's what we should do with,
you know, it's like it's like when I watch


[01:35:13 - 01:35:16] Speaker: Cesar Millan The Dog Whisperer, it's like
sometimes you got to take him for a walk.


[01:35:16 - 01:35:18] Speaker: But the worst thing we could do with
kids is get a room.


[01:35:18 - 01:35:19] Speaker: And, you know, it's funny


[01:35:19 - 01:35:23] Speaker: being that parent that did do
all that research for their child.


[01:35:23 - 01:35:26] Speaker: And I never put my son on medicine.


[01:35:26 - 01:35:27] Speaker: It was lymphatic massage.


[01:35:27 - 01:35:28] Speaker: It was rebuking demons.


[01:35:28 - 01:35:30] Speaker: It was trusting in God.


[01:35:30 - 01:35:33] Speaker: It was also telling you seriously
he would have seizures,


[01:35:33 - 01:35:35] Speaker: eyes rolled way back in his head.


[01:35:35 - 01:35:36] Speaker: It's going to be terrifying.


[01:35:36 - 01:35:38] Speaker: As a mother, it is extremely terrifying.


[01:35:38 - 01:35:40] Speaker: But there were times
where I had to be grateful in.


[01:35:40 - 01:35:42] Speaker: Those moments to thank.


[01:35:42 - 01:35:45] Speaker: You God that my son is having seizures
and he wasn't diagnosed with.


[01:35:45 - 01:35:47] Speaker: Cancer that could kill him.


[01:35:47 - 01:35:48] Speaker: Thank you God.


[01:35:48 - 01:35:50] Speaker: Like I am not special.


[01:35:50 - 01:35:54] Speaker: No, no, not better than anybody else
who lost their child at birth,


[01:35:55 - 01:35:58] Speaker: who does all these other things
could be happening totally.


[01:35:58 - 01:35:59] Speaker: So even though it was seizures.


[01:35:59 - 01:36:01] Speaker: I was grateful.


[01:36:01 - 01:36:04] Speaker: Yeah, because I could handle this
and I handled them.


[01:36:04 - 01:36:06] Speaker: For, what, five.


[01:36:06 - 01:36:09] Speaker: Yeah, five years
because he was almost six until he was 11.


[01:36:09 - 01:36:10] Speaker: And then he started chewing.


[01:36:10 - 01:36:13] Speaker: And they said
this could have been the tobacco.


[01:36:14 - 01:36:16] Speaker: Or it was the nicotine.
It could have been.


[01:36:16 - 01:36:18] Speaker: We don't, but we don't know.
But you didn't take medicine.


[01:36:18 - 01:36:19] Speaker: You didn't take.


[01:36:19 - 01:36:22] Speaker: How did it stop without medicine? Exactly.
Something happened.


[01:36:22 - 01:36:25] Speaker: And let me tell you about gods
confirmations on stuff.


[01:36:25 - 01:36:28] Speaker: So here I am with the diagnosis
a year later.


[01:36:28 - 01:36:30] Speaker: Yeah. After I woke up one day
and thought the.


[01:36:30 - 01:36:33] Speaker: Breast cancer diagnosis. That's right.
The breast cancer diagnosis.


[01:36:33 - 01:36:35] Speaker: I slept through a whole night.


[01:36:35 - 01:36:37] Speaker: I guess I can sleep through the night now.


[01:36:37 - 01:36:40] Speaker: Don't have to. Worry
about my son having seizures.


[01:36:40 - 01:36:43] Speaker: And although you never know,
you always run that risk, right?


[01:36:43 - 01:36:44] Speaker: But I'm like.


[01:36:44 - 01:36:46] Speaker: I slept through all night and like.


[01:36:46 - 01:36:48] Speaker: And three days
later, I get diagnosed with,


[01:36:50 - 01:36:50] Speaker: with this I.


[01:36:50 - 01:36:51] Speaker: Think the test.


[01:36:51 - 01:36:55] Speaker: So here I am after getting,
I got a lumpectomy done.


[01:36:56 - 01:36:57] Speaker: All right.


[01:36:57 - 01:37:00] Speaker: And when I was deciding on what to do
and they send you to the,


[01:37:00 - 01:37:03] Speaker: I went to one surgeon
who would have me take them both off.


[01:37:03 - 01:37:05] Speaker: Her husband does the rebuilds over there.


[01:37:05 - 01:37:07] Speaker: Yeah. So, like, family business.


[01:37:07 - 01:37:08] Speaker: Assembly factory, assembly line.


[01:37:08 - 01:37:10] Speaker: I chop them both off and then.


[01:37:10 - 01:37:14] Speaker: Yeah, the family business and, Oh.


[01:37:15 - 01:37:17] Speaker: And that was always like,


[01:37:17 - 01:37:21] Speaker: I don't know, I was like 46 and I'm like,
I'm not going to post nude for Playboy.


[01:37:21 - 01:37:22] Speaker: Can you just take what you want?


[01:37:22 - 01:37:22] Speaker: Yeah.


[01:37:22 - 01:37:25] Speaker: So this doctor I found in Philly
who was wonderful, I loved her,


[01:37:25 - 01:37:28] Speaker: I loved her,
the surgeon, not their oncologist.


[01:37:30 - 01:37:32] Speaker: I said to her, can we just do this?


[01:37:32 - 01:37:34] Speaker: Just take what you need.


[01:37:34 - 01:37:38] Speaker: And if it's worse than what we think,
can we revisit this later?


[01:37:38 - 01:37:39] Speaker: Yeah. And she looked at me.


[01:37:39 - 01:37:41] Speaker: And she's a girl from Plains, actually,
and I didn't know.


[01:37:41 - 01:37:46] Speaker: Like, this is what I was going to get
as a woman who grew up in our area looks.


[01:37:46 - 01:37:49] Speaker: At me and says, yes, you can.


[01:37:49 - 01:37:52] Speaker: And it felt like she was.


[01:37:52 - 01:37:55] Speaker: Saying, I'm so glad that somebody
is thinking this through and not.


[01:37:55 - 01:37:56] Speaker: Going just talk about.


[01:37:56 - 01:37:57] Speaker: My thought.


[01:37:57 - 01:37:58] Speaker: Process.


[01:37:58 - 01:38:01] Speaker: Was and this was confirmed to me
by a friend later, was.


[01:38:02 - 01:38:04] Speaker: If you


[01:38:04 - 01:38:06] Speaker: if. I take them both off,
if the cancer is going.


[01:38:06 - 01:38:08] Speaker: To return, where's it going to go?


[01:38:08 - 01:38:09] Speaker: Right.


[01:38:09 - 01:38:11] Speaker: Is it going to go to this fatty tissue
that I don't really need?


[01:38:11 - 01:38:14] Speaker: Right. All right.
Or is it going to go to an organ because


[01:38:15 - 01:38:17] Speaker: breast
cancer can't reach any cancer can return.


[01:38:17 - 01:38:19] Speaker: Yeah. But it's a different eliminate.


[01:38:19 - 01:38:21] Speaker: If you eliminate


[01:38:21 - 01:38:24] Speaker: the breast where's it going to go.


[01:38:24 - 01:38:25] Speaker: It could go anywhere.


[01:38:25 - 01:38:27] Speaker: Somewhere worse or somewhere worse. Yeah.


[01:38:27 - 01:38:28] Speaker: Vital work.


[01:38:28 - 01:38:30] Speaker: That liver and lung thing,
you know, from. Earlier, right.


[01:38:30 - 01:38:31] Speaker: You know.


[01:38:31 - 01:38:34] Speaker: So. And I thought it through. Like that.


[01:38:34 - 01:38:37] Speaker: You know.


[01:38:38 - 01:38:41] Speaker: Later, friend told me that
her doctor told her that she had a doctor.


[01:38:41 - 01:38:43] Speaker: At Fox Chase who said, take what you need,


[01:38:43 - 01:38:46] Speaker: because if it's going to come back,
that's where you want it to go, right?


[01:38:47 - 01:38:47] Speaker: I was like.


[01:38:47 - 01:38:49] Speaker: I just thought it because it was knowledge
and discernment.


[01:38:49 - 01:38:51] Speaker: Told me that, you know?


[01:38:51 - 01:38:52] Speaker: Yeah, common. Sense.


[01:38:52 - 01:38:53] Speaker: And for anybody who asked me why


[01:38:53 - 01:38:56] Speaker: I didn't take the radiation, in the end,
the doctor in Rochester.


[01:38:56 - 01:38:57] Speaker: Tommy,


[01:38:58 - 01:39:00] Speaker: just radiation and tamoxifen.


[01:39:00 - 01:39:03] Speaker: Well, if you can only get radiation,
one part of your body once, I guess


[01:39:03 - 01:39:06] Speaker: there'll be 16 treatments of radiation,
but only one time.


[01:39:07 - 01:39:08] Speaker: Why are you going to take it off
the table?


[01:39:08 - 01:39:11] Speaker: For what? If.


[01:39:11 - 01:39:12] Speaker: What do you mean?


[01:39:12 - 01:39:15] Speaker: Well, what if it returns?


[01:39:15 - 01:39:15] Speaker: I'm going to say.


[01:39:15 - 01:39:18] Speaker: And you just put radiation into your body,
right?


[01:39:18 - 01:39:21] Speaker: Like we're free to eat
this radioactive shrimp from Walmart.


[01:39:22 - 01:39:24] Speaker: But I don't mean to laugh at that.


[01:39:24 - 01:39:25] Speaker: I don't mean to laugh at that. Well,
that's totally right.


[01:39:25 - 01:39:27] Speaker: You're totally wrong about that.


[01:39:27 - 01:39:29] Speaker: The other day I went,


[01:39:29 - 01:39:31] Speaker: Wait, I'm free to eat, but then I'm going
to put radiation in my body, and.


[01:39:31 - 01:39:33] Speaker: And that makes sense. To who?


[01:39:33 - 01:39:36] Speaker: Now, you know,
my niece said to me that when her.


[01:39:37 - 01:39:38] Speaker: When Derek. Died, she.


[01:39:38 - 01:39:42] Speaker: Swore that when they when he took
the radiation is when the cancer spread.


[01:39:42 - 01:39:45] Speaker: Through his body.
Okay, I think that's true.


[01:39:45 - 01:39:47] Speaker: She took the radiation
and died within a month.


[01:39:48 - 01:39:51] Speaker: She knew it,


[01:39:51 - 01:39:52] Speaker: but still did. It


[01:39:52 - 01:39:55] Speaker: because they scare you so bad
and not doing it their way


[01:39:55 - 01:39:58] Speaker: that even though it doesn't sound
right to you, you still do it.


[01:39:59 - 01:40:02] Speaker: They deliver you fear through the ears.


[01:40:02 - 01:40:03] Speaker: I have this I have this.


[01:40:03 - 01:40:06] Speaker: Theory that I thought about in the last
five years where I'm like,


[01:40:06 - 01:40:09] Speaker: it doesn't make sense to poison people
to make them healthy.


[01:40:09 - 01:40:11] Speaker: Oh, I knew that. Well,
that was the other thing.


[01:40:11 - 01:40:13] Speaker: So I also felt like,


[01:40:13 - 01:40:16] Speaker: would you like to trade your cancer
for a heart attack concept?


[01:40:16 - 01:40:18] Speaker: And they wanted me to do this
or something.


[01:40:18 - 01:40:21] Speaker: So, most people, when you talk about them,
when people go through it,


[01:40:21 - 01:40:27] Speaker: when people pass away from cancer,
they always a large preponderance of them


[01:40:27 - 01:40:30] Speaker: will say, it wasn't the cancer,
it was the treatment.


[01:40:30 - 01:40:33] Speaker: So a few got of God's confirmations.


[01:40:34 - 01:40:36] Speaker: All right.


[01:40:36 - 01:40:38] Speaker: So Herceptin only affects your heart.


[01:40:38 - 01:40:40] Speaker: Well, you're on it, right?


[01:40:40 - 01:40:41] Speaker: Yeah. Okay.


[01:40:41 - 01:40:44] Speaker: Well, if you take a rubber band
and you stretch it


[01:40:44 - 01:40:47] Speaker: 16 times, is it going back to normal?


[01:40:47 - 01:40:48] Speaker: No, no.


[01:40:48 - 01:40:51] Speaker: So no, it's going to affect your heart.


[01:40:51 - 01:40:54] Speaker: Period.


[01:40:55 - 01:40:58] Speaker: A couple weeks ago, I'm at a gas station
and there's a guy.


[01:40:58 - 01:41:01] Speaker: Now I'm thinking I'm surrounded by people
always talking about diagnosis.


[01:41:01 - 01:41:03] Speaker: And a guy
whose wife died of breast cancer.


[01:41:03 - 01:41:05] Speaker: Doctors did everything they could to help
her. Yes.


[01:41:05 - 01:41:07] Speaker: Yeah. You know, but she's still.


[01:41:07 - 01:41:09] Speaker: And I'm like, they didn't
they didn't do everything because


[01:41:09 - 01:41:11] Speaker: and give you all your options.


[01:41:11 - 01:41:13] Speaker: They didn't tell you the truth.


[01:41:13 - 01:41:16] Speaker: Did you know I asked a woman
that had breast cancer the other day


[01:41:16 - 01:41:18] Speaker: who took all the treatment,
and now she has all these other health.


[01:41:18 - 01:41:20] Speaker: Problems going on.


[01:41:20 - 01:41:23] Speaker: And I said,
they tell you that most breast cancers


[01:41:23 - 01:41:26] Speaker: are slow moving
and that you had time to think.


[01:41:28 - 01:41:31] Speaker: Never told you that.


[01:41:31 - 01:41:31] Speaker: You have time to think.


[01:41:31 - 01:41:34] Speaker: You always have time
to see the detox works.


[01:41:34 - 01:41:36] Speaker: You also have you know what I mean?


[01:41:36 - 01:41:39] Speaker: Yeah,
you don't have to make a rash decision.


[01:41:39 - 01:41:40] Speaker: I do in my life.


[01:41:40 - 01:41:41] Speaker: But you can spend the next
three months eating healthy.


[01:41:41 - 01:41:44] Speaker: I'm getting diagnosed
with a fast moving cancer,


[01:41:44 - 01:41:46] Speaker: and I still took time to think because.


[01:41:46 - 01:41:47] Speaker: I said, screw them.


[01:41:47 - 01:41:50] Speaker: My time. God's time. That's it.


[01:41:50 - 01:41:51] Speaker: And I did.


[01:41:51 - 01:41:52] Speaker: I but I was confused.


[01:41:52 - 01:41:55] Speaker: I wasn't I wasn't not scared.


[01:41:55 - 01:41:59] Speaker: So I'm the first,
my first one of my first confirmations.


[01:41:59 - 01:42:02] Speaker: I had gone into the Dollar Tree.


[01:42:02 - 01:42:03] Speaker: It was brand new in Tunkhannock.


[01:42:03 - 01:42:06] Speaker: I ran into somebody
I hadn't seen in good ten years.


[01:42:06 - 01:42:09] Speaker: Walks up to me
and she says, how you feeling?


[01:42:09 - 01:42:09] Speaker: Because, you know, I shared.


[01:42:09 - 01:42:12] Speaker: The story on Facebook
so people didn't know.


[01:42:12 - 01:42:14] Speaker: And I said, you know, I hate the question.


[01:42:14 - 01:42:17] Speaker: I feel great,
I feel fantastic, but I'm very confused.


[01:42:18 - 01:42:20] Speaker: They want me to do Herceptin, right?


[01:42:21 - 01:42:23] Speaker: They want me to do,


[01:42:23 - 01:42:26] Speaker: chemo, radiation, tamoxifen.


[01:42:27 - 01:42:28] Speaker: I said.


[01:42:28 - 01:42:31] Speaker: I feel great,
I did Don LaBarge detox diet.


[01:42:31 - 01:42:32] Speaker: I did all this.


[01:42:32 - 01:42:35] Speaker: I haven't felt this good
since I was in my 30s.


[01:42:35 - 01:42:38] Speaker: She looked at me. She said, 15 years.


[01:42:38 - 01:42:41] Speaker: I took that operation,
but I wouldn't take that treatment


[01:42:41 - 01:42:44] Speaker: 15 years.


[01:42:44 - 01:42:45] Speaker: And I'm like.


[01:42:45 - 01:42:47] Speaker: Okay, God, I get it. Like
because it was like God was.


[01:42:47 - 01:42:49] Speaker: Speaking like.


[01:42:49 - 01:42:51] Speaker: Somebody could roll around like I was.


[01:42:51 - 01:42:54] Speaker: 15 years cancer free to chemo.


[01:42:54 - 01:42:55] Speaker: It doesn't mean chemo worked.


[01:42:55 - 01:42:58] Speaker: It means it also can mean
and you don't know what the other


[01:42:59 - 01:43:01] Speaker: what other health problems
they're having either.


[01:43:01 - 01:43:03] Speaker: So, you know, there's no proof
that chemo actually works.


[01:43:03 - 01:43:06] Speaker: But they'll tell you there is. Right.
Because they're not tracing.


[01:43:06 - 01:43:09] Speaker: This woman
who did not take any treatment at all.


[01:43:09 - 01:43:09] Speaker: Yeah.


[01:43:09 - 01:43:10] Speaker: They're not
why they're not paying attention


[01:43:10 - 01:43:12] Speaker: to the ones who beat it
without doing anything.


[01:43:12 - 01:43:15] Speaker: So then I am going to,


[01:43:16 - 01:43:18] Speaker: a store where I get into this conversation
with the woman


[01:43:18 - 01:43:20] Speaker: who was complaining
about the greed of America


[01:43:20 - 01:43:22] Speaker: and the pharmaceutical companies
being the worst,


[01:43:22 - 01:43:25] Speaker: and I start telling her about my son
now being in gear seizure free.


[01:43:25 - 01:43:29] Speaker: Like I told her how they were trying
to push medicine on us and try this


[01:43:29 - 01:43:30] Speaker: and blah, blah blah.


[01:43:30 - 01:43:31] Speaker: And at the end of that.


[01:43:31 - 01:43:34] Speaker: Conversation, she said to me, oh my gosh,


[01:43:34 - 01:43:37] Speaker: my son, 40 years old on set
when he was just a boy.


[01:43:37 - 01:43:41] Speaker: I swear that medicine mindset was
that of seizures when he was just a boy.


[01:43:41 - 01:43:44] Speaker: I swear that medicine made it worse,
not better.


[01:43:45 - 01:43:48] Speaker: I swear, I swear
it made it worse, not better.


[01:43:48 - 01:43:49] Speaker: She didn't know because you can't tell.


[01:43:49 - 01:43:51] Speaker: But he's still getting seizures.


[01:43:51 - 01:43:53] Speaker: 40 years old. She's still dealing with it.


[01:43:53 - 01:43:56] Speaker: She thinks it's
the medicine that made it worse.


[01:43:56 - 01:43:56] Speaker: And I went.


[01:43:57 - 01:44:00] Speaker: I was like, I walked out
of that store going, okay, I got get it.


[01:44:01 - 01:44:04] Speaker: I yeah, I trusted you with my son's life.


[01:44:04 - 01:44:07] Speaker: You know,
I have to trust you with my life.


[01:44:08 - 01:44:12] Speaker: I think mother's intuition is way more
valuable a lot of times than any doctor.


[01:44:13 - 01:44:15] Speaker: Right. And I think moms know.


[01:44:15 - 01:44:16] Speaker: Because you do know.


[01:44:16 - 01:44:19] Speaker: So. But. But she,


[01:44:19 - 01:44:21] Speaker: But I did
feel like that was God talking to me.


[01:44:21 - 01:44:22] Speaker: Like, sure it was. It was.


[01:44:22 - 01:44:24] Speaker: And it wasn't easy for me, like.


[01:44:24 - 01:44:28] Speaker: But it's easier for me to trust
God who created me,


[01:44:28 - 01:44:31] Speaker: who knows my body than some man I just met
who's going to make money off of me.


[01:44:31 - 01:44:32] Speaker: Yeah. Yeah.


[01:44:32 - 01:44:33] Speaker: And I got in a country club.


[01:44:33 - 01:44:35] Speaker: You have a hell of a lot more faith
than I do.


[01:44:35 - 01:44:39] Speaker: If you're putting all your money or your
faith into a man who wants your money.


[01:44:39 - 01:44:42] Speaker: When. God. Doesn't need anything from me.


[01:44:42 - 01:44:44] Speaker: He doesn't even money his.


[01:44:44 - 01:44:46] Speaker: He and I don't have to actually
do his weight.


[01:44:46 - 01:44:48] Speaker: So my job to go save people either.


[01:44:48 - 01:44:49] Speaker: You know that, right?


[01:44:49 - 01:44:52] Speaker: I mean, I could talk to people,
but it's not my job to save them.


[01:44:52 - 01:44:54] Speaker: Yeah, you know what?
I can't take the needle out of your arm.


[01:44:54 - 01:44:55] Speaker: I can't take the bottle.


[01:44:55 - 01:44:58] Speaker: I know where.
It says in the, in the Bible.


[01:44:58 - 01:45:01] Speaker: It's not by works,
so there is nothing I can do.


[01:45:02 - 01:45:02] Speaker: All right.


[01:45:02 - 01:45:07] Speaker: So he has nothing to profit from me,
and I want to trust him,


[01:45:07 - 01:45:10] Speaker: though, because he's
not going to use me for anything.


[01:45:10 - 01:45:13] Speaker: Why do you think that? There's
a certain like this is. This is the book.


[01:45:13 - 01:45:13] Speaker: Keep going. I'm sorry.


[01:45:13 - 01:45:16] Speaker: So the rest of the story
was just a couple weeks ago.


[01:45:16 - 01:45:19] Speaker: After hearing all these people tell me
that they're diagnosed and they get this


[01:45:19 - 01:45:22] Speaker: guy gets out of his car, starts
talking out of the blue.


[01:45:22 - 01:45:25] Speaker: We're doing we just graduate yesterday
and I'm like, I want this guy.


[01:45:25 - 01:45:27] Speaker: And he just starts talking and he's like.


[01:45:27 - 01:45:29] Speaker: Tell the stories of sons
not talking to him.


[01:45:29 - 01:45:34] Speaker: And this his wife died and he's like,
she had breast cancer.


[01:45:34 - 01:45:37] Speaker: And I'm like, oh boy. Like and


[01:45:38 - 01:45:41] Speaker: and he's
like, she took all that treatment.


[01:45:41 - 01:45:44] Speaker: She should have taken that in treatment.


[01:45:44 - 01:45:46] Speaker: Jesus. He says.


[01:45:46 - 01:45:47] Speaker: You know what the kicker of it was?


[01:45:47 - 01:45:49] Speaker: They cleared her of the cancer.


[01:45:49 - 01:45:54] Speaker: She was cancer free, they said,
and she died in my arms of a heart attack.


[01:45:55 - 01:45:56] Speaker: I my biggest fear.


[01:45:56 - 01:45:58] Speaker: Was playing let's make a deal.


[01:45:58 - 01:46:01] Speaker: Would you. Like to trade.


[01:46:01 - 01:46:04] Speaker: Your cancer diagnosis for a heart attack?


[01:46:05 - 01:46:07] Speaker: And I went, all right, God, I know this.


[01:46:07 - 01:46:10] Speaker: Confirmation came a little bit, but
sometimes your confirmations don't come.


[01:46:10 - 01:46:11] Speaker: Right away.


[01:46:11 - 01:46:12] Speaker: But they're confirmed.


[01:46:12 - 01:46:15] Speaker: And we're those three uncles
I was telling you about.


[01:46:15 - 01:46:18] Speaker: One of them passed away
and was cancer free,


[01:46:20 - 01:46:24] Speaker: but could not could not get healthy
after that.


[01:46:24 - 01:46:26] Speaker: After taking all the treatment.


[01:46:26 - 01:46:28] Speaker: Yeah. I have a friend who's mother.


[01:46:29 - 01:46:32] Speaker: And. They never got cured
by the medical system, although she did.


[01:46:32 - 01:46:34] Speaker: All the treatment, the chemo. Was the.


[01:46:34 - 01:46:37] Speaker: Everything else made her own
marijuana like.


[01:46:37 - 01:46:40] Speaker: Oh, yes. I saw the Rick Simpson oil.


[01:46:40 - 01:46:43] Speaker: She did it in a crock pot,
and she she gave me the recipe.


[01:46:44 - 01:46:45] Speaker: I just.


[01:46:45 - 01:46:48] Speaker: Didn't have the guts to just do
the marijuana.


[01:46:48 - 01:46:49] Speaker: You know, call me.


[01:46:49 - 01:46:50] Speaker: I know next to it.


[01:46:50 - 01:46:52] Speaker: If it ever happens again your first time.


[01:46:52 - 01:46:54] Speaker: Well, you're you're
right after Donna LaVar, you're getting.


[01:46:54 - 01:46:56] Speaker: Okay. Good, good.


[01:46:56 - 01:46:59] Speaker: But she cured. Her.


[01:46:59 - 01:47:00] Speaker: Mother.


[01:47:00 - 01:47:01] Speaker: They they


[01:47:01 - 01:47:05] Speaker: in fact actually her she told her
I don't know what you're doing here. But.


[01:47:06 - 01:47:07] Speaker: She it's working.


[01:47:07 - 01:47:08] Speaker: It's working.


[01:47:08 - 01:47:10] Speaker: And then I'm dying because of.


[01:47:10 - 01:47:13] Speaker: All the treatment
she took before they got to this point.


[01:47:13 - 01:47:15] Speaker: But at this point,
none of the treatment was working.


[01:47:16 - 01:47:20] Speaker: So here
she was faced with losing her mother.


[01:47:21 - 01:47:23] Speaker: Doesn't try it till the last resort.


[01:47:23 - 01:47:24] Speaker: Because they always win.


[01:47:24 - 01:47:27] Speaker: Because you trust in the system.


[01:47:27 - 01:47:30] Speaker: When you trust in these people,
they always who say that


[01:47:30 - 01:47:30] Speaker: they have your best.


[01:47:30 - 01:47:36] Speaker: How many times do I have to read
a obituary where somebody passes away?


[01:47:36 - 01:47:38] Speaker: Even young people at that?


[01:47:38 - 01:47:41] Speaker: We'd like to thank the doctors.


[01:47:41 - 01:47:45] Speaker: If I read an obituary,
what do you think of them for?


[01:47:45 - 01:47:48] Speaker: They didn't save you.
They didn't save you.


[01:47:48 - 01:47:48] Speaker: I mean.


[01:47:48 - 01:47:51] Speaker: You could say I'm
caring and compassionate.


[01:47:52 - 01:47:55] Speaker: Doesn't mean you are right.


[01:47:55 - 01:47:56] Speaker: It doesn't end.


[01:47:56 - 01:47:58] Speaker: At the tip of your tongue with them.


[01:47:58 - 01:48:01] Speaker: And actually, it ends in their wallets.


[01:48:01 - 01:48:03] Speaker: Truthfully, yes.


[01:48:03 - 01:48:05] Speaker: This is way it seems like.


[01:48:05 - 01:48:08] Speaker: I mean, I hate to think that people
are actually out there.


[01:48:08 - 01:48:11] Speaker: Profiting on the misfortunes.


[01:48:11 - 01:48:14] Speaker: Of. Others, but it looks like. They are.


[01:48:14 - 01:48:16] Speaker: I have I.


[01:48:16 - 01:48:19] Speaker: I don't think, I think some of
them legitimately don't know.


[01:48:20 - 01:48:20] Speaker: What they don't


[01:48:20 - 01:48:23] Speaker: know, because our medical schools
are being paid for by the.


[01:48:23 - 01:48:25] Speaker: Rockefellers,


[01:48:25 - 01:48:27] Speaker: who own


[01:48:27 - 01:48:28] Speaker: the pharmaceutical.


[01:48:28 - 01:48:30] Speaker: Companies in the banks and the businesses.


[01:48:30 - 01:48:33] Speaker: And do you wanna take a quick smoke break
and then we'll and then we'll wrap up,


[01:48:33 - 01:48:34] Speaker: because you have to.


[01:48:34 - 01:48:36] Speaker: I. Do have to go. Get Mexican food.


[01:48:36 - 01:48:38] Speaker: And how far away from here is that?
15 minutes.


[01:48:38 - 01:48:40] Speaker: No, that's like seven minutes.
Okay. Yeah, yeah.


[01:48:40 - 01:48:43] Speaker: All right. Yes. Okay. All right,


[01:48:43 - 01:48:43] Speaker: all right.


[01:48:43 - 01:48:49] Speaker: So I want to I want to wrap this up,
and I want to have you back if.


[01:48:49 - 01:48:52] Speaker: Oh, I want to come back,
man. I'm back here. I'm back here.


[01:48:52 - 01:48:54] Speaker: Yes, I am. All right. Good.


[01:48:54 - 01:48:56] Speaker: And we can talk crazier. Shit.


[01:48:56 - 01:48:57] Speaker: I want you.


[01:48:57 - 01:48:59] Speaker: You mentioned to me
that a lot of the things that, like.


[01:49:01 - 01:49:03] Speaker: Sometimes corporate


[01:49:03 - 01:49:06] Speaker: media tells you what you can
and cannot say.


[01:49:06 - 01:49:09] Speaker: Now, mine all came from my boss.


[01:49:10 - 01:49:12] Speaker: Your boss. Right?


[01:49:12 - 01:49:15] Speaker: The person above me, right? Yeah.


[01:49:15 - 01:49:19] Speaker: And I was told that I cannot tell people
what kind of cancer treatments


[01:49:19 - 01:49:21] Speaker: other people took.


[01:49:21 - 01:49:24] Speaker: And in my case, like,
I didn't see anything wrong with that


[01:49:24 - 01:49:25] Speaker: because it's true story.


[01:49:25 - 01:49:30] Speaker: If I'm talking to a guy who's a singer
who has throat cancer, doesn't


[01:49:30 - 01:49:35] Speaker: take the radiation that was recorded
because radiation to doctors is.


[01:49:35 - 01:49:38] Speaker: Erring on the side of caution.
Because if we don't tell you.


[01:49:38 - 01:49:40] Speaker: Not to take it
and we didn't tell you anything,


[01:49:40 - 01:49:42] Speaker: and if something happens,
we might get sued.


[01:49:42 - 01:49:43] Speaker: It's a liability issue.


[01:49:43 - 01:49:48] Speaker: So when my son was getting seizures
and his pediatrician at the time, who I


[01:49:48 - 01:49:52] Speaker: then dropped
made me feel like the worst mom on earth


[01:49:52 - 01:49:54] Speaker: because they wouldn't
put him on medicine, right?


[01:49:54 - 01:49:57] Speaker: I finally said to him, because I did
research and every single one


[01:49:57 - 01:50:01] Speaker: I did research on led me back
to somebody who was on medicine and died.


[01:50:02 - 01:50:03] Speaker: Having a seizure. Okay,


[01:50:04 - 01:50:05] Speaker: he's telling me


[01:50:05 - 01:50:08] Speaker: the opposite, though,
that if I don't put my kid on medicine,


[01:50:10 - 01:50:12] Speaker: he could die of C,
he could die of a seizure.


[01:50:12 - 01:50:14] Speaker: Right? But I'm like. Damn, why is this?


[01:50:14 - 01:50:17] Speaker: There are only the stories you're finding.
I'm like, every single one died.


[01:50:17 - 01:50:18] Speaker: And totally by accident.


[01:50:18 - 01:50:20] Speaker: I wasn't just. Looking for them, right?


[01:50:20 - 01:50:22] Speaker: They were like things that I was working
the wrong one.


[01:50:22 - 01:50:25] Speaker: And seven
news story popped up about a woman


[01:50:25 - 01:50:28] Speaker: that had seizures and died
right after she got married.


[01:50:28 - 01:50:31] Speaker: And I actually found her fiancé.


[01:50:31 - 01:50:34] Speaker: He was putting on something called concert
candlelight concerts for cure.


[01:50:35 - 01:50:36] Speaker: And I found him on Facebook.


[01:50:36 - 01:50:38] Speaker: Messaged him, and I said,
I just have one question for you.


[01:50:38 - 01:50:42] Speaker: Was Caroline on medicine when she died?


[01:50:43 - 01:50:44] Speaker: And he said, yes.


[01:50:46 - 01:50:47] Speaker: Okay.


[01:50:47 - 01:50:49] Speaker: Danny did Foundation out of Chicago,
Illinois.


[01:50:49 - 01:50:51] Speaker: Danny was four years old.


[01:50:51 - 01:50:54] Speaker: They took two years to regulate
any kind of medicine that would work.


[01:50:54 - 01:50:57] Speaker: He had a slight weight gain.


[01:50:58 - 01:51:00] Speaker: They upped. His dose of medicine.


[01:51:00 - 01:51:02] Speaker: Because of the slight weaken, because.


[01:51:02 - 01:51:03] Speaker: Of the slight weight gain.


[01:51:03 - 01:51:05] Speaker: They upped. His dose of.


[01:51:05 - 01:51:09] Speaker: Medicine and he died
within a week of upping the dose.


[01:51:11 - 01:51:12] Speaker: And you can't.


[01:51:12 - 01:51:16] Speaker: And there's no there's not there's
no way to make those families whole.


[01:51:16 - 01:51:18] Speaker: I said to the doctor.


[01:51:18 - 01:51:22] Speaker: So if my kid goes on the medicine
and he dies,


[01:51:22 - 01:51:25] Speaker: can I still sue you?


[01:51:26 - 01:51:28] Speaker: And what did he say?


[01:51:28 - 01:51:31] Speaker: He didn't know how to answer me.


[01:51:31 - 01:51:32] Speaker: He did not know how to answer.


[01:51:32 - 01:51:34] Speaker: I mean, your mom. Say anything.
You're a mom.


[01:51:34 - 01:51:37] Speaker: That's your kid? Yeah,
and he was talking way down.


[01:51:37 - 01:51:39] Speaker: Well, this is a doctor who


[01:51:39 - 01:51:42] Speaker: that really acted like
he was better than anybody else.


[01:51:42 - 01:51:45] Speaker: Like, you know. So why were you.
So why wasn't so, you know, so you're.


[01:51:45 - 01:51:45] Speaker: I mean.


[01:51:45 - 01:51:47] Speaker: At any rate,
if I'm not giving you this information,


[01:51:47 - 01:51:50] Speaker: how do you know you can even research
or where to start researching?


[01:51:50 - 01:51:52] Speaker: Because who's got the time?
Because you know what made me mad?


[01:51:52 - 01:51:56] Speaker: When my kid started having seizures
was that nobody talked about it out loud.


[01:51:56 - 01:52:01] Speaker: I had a friend of mine that it was friends
with for years who sent me a message.


[01:52:02 - 01:52:05] Speaker: And said, don't tell anybody this,
but our son had seizures to.


[01:52:07 - 01:52:08] Speaker: But they didn't want anybody to know.


[01:52:08 - 01:52:11] Speaker: Now I understand
because my kid was shunned,


[01:52:11 - 01:52:13] Speaker: even though he was only
getting at night at home and I wasn't.


[01:52:13 - 01:52:15] Speaker: I just wouldn't let him do sleepovers.


[01:52:15 - 01:52:17] Speaker: I always have to tell parents
just in case.


[01:52:17 - 01:52:19] Speaker: Because you don't know. Yeah,
you don't want to know.


[01:52:19 - 01:52:21] Speaker: But then all of a sudden
the kid had no friends.


[01:52:21 - 01:52:22] Speaker: Nobody wanted to be around them.


[01:52:22 - 01:52:25] Speaker: They couldn't hang around with anyone,
get invited to anything, you know.


[01:52:25 - 01:52:29] Speaker: And then I wonder why
he has anxiety problems at the age of 21.


[01:52:29 - 01:52:30] Speaker: Right.


[01:52:30 - 01:52:32] Speaker: You know,
because he was pushed away at school.


[01:52:32 - 01:52:35] Speaker: He said, well, what if he was trying
to push me to put on my medicine


[01:52:35 - 01:52:40] Speaker: even though, well, what do we do if your
if he has a seizure during the day?


[01:52:40 - 01:52:42] Speaker: I said, well, he's
never had a seizure during the day.


[01:52:44 - 01:52:46] Speaker: But. 1
in 10 people will get a seizure in their.


[01:52:46 - 01:52:48] Speaker: Lifetime.
That's what the statistics point to.


[01:52:48 - 01:52:51] Speaker: So what if anybody,
including a teacher, had a seizure?


[01:52:52 - 01:52:53] Speaker: What would you do?


[01:52:53 - 01:52:55] Speaker: Why are you asking me?


[01:52:55 - 01:52:56] Speaker: You know.


[01:52:56 - 01:52:57] Speaker: Right. Like.


[01:52:57 - 01:52:59] Speaker: But so they try from all ends.


[01:52:59 - 01:53:00] Speaker: You're
trying it. You're getting pressured.


[01:53:00 - 01:53:02] Speaker: So no like. Yeah.


[01:53:02 - 01:53:05] Speaker: So I was that was one of the examples
during Covid I was and wasn't allowed


[01:53:05 - 01:53:09] Speaker: to bring up any questions
about masking being wrong or.


[01:53:09 - 01:53:11] Speaker: Or because that an.


[01:53:11 - 01:53:14] Speaker: Edict from the station.


[01:53:14 - 01:53:17] Speaker: Somebody believed that they were doing
what was right based on, I.


[01:53:17 - 01:53:21] Speaker: Don't know what they thought
they knew where saw I don't know.


[01:53:22 - 01:53:24] Speaker: Yeah. So it was from the bottom.
So you can't even see.


[01:53:24 - 01:53:24] Speaker: You can't even say that.


[01:53:24 - 01:53:27] Speaker: Like, anecdotally, you know.


[01:53:27 - 01:53:29] Speaker: Like, this doesn't make sense.
You can't say this doesn't make sense.


[01:53:29 - 01:53:31] Speaker: How does this make sense to
you? You couldn't say that.


[01:53:32 - 01:53:35] Speaker: So so I mean, how does that how does that.


[01:53:38 - 01:53:41] Speaker: It seems like there was like this,


[01:53:41 - 01:53:43] Speaker: the thing
that I was trying to convey to people,


[01:53:43 - 01:53:45] Speaker: like when we started doing this, right,
we started


[01:53:45 - 01:53:49] Speaker: I've been doing podcast since 2010, ever
since I got sober in one form or another.


[01:53:49 - 01:53:49] Speaker: Right?


[01:53:49 - 01:53:52] Speaker: Sometimes they're about like lesbian sex
talk.


[01:53:52 - 01:53:54] Speaker: Like, that's the iterations
that I've been through,


[01:53:54 - 01:53:57] Speaker: because I just like to talk
about crazy shit. Right.


[01:53:57 - 01:54:00] Speaker: And I was I was asked


[01:54:00 - 01:54:03] Speaker: people were asking questions, people,
and you weren't allowed to.


[01:54:03 - 01:54:06] Speaker: As for Boden,
you can't ask these questions.


[01:54:07 - 01:54:09] Speaker: And that really bothered me.


[01:54:09 - 01:54:11] Speaker: Right? I never like that either.


[01:54:11 - 01:54:14] Speaker: I didn't like when. So I. Interviewed.


[01:54:14 - 01:54:15] Speaker: President Biden.


[01:54:15 - 01:54:19] Speaker: Vice President Biden at the time,
when I was on record and seven


[01:54:20 - 01:54:23] Speaker: I had to be talked to by the white House
before I put them on the air.


[01:54:23 - 01:54:23] Speaker: Okay.


[01:54:23 - 01:54:26] Speaker: And I was told
what I wasn't allowed to ask.


[01:54:27 - 01:54:28] Speaker: So I did ask them if it was true.


[01:54:28 - 01:54:31] Speaker: It was a beautiful day that year
when they won the second term.


[01:54:32 - 01:54:35] Speaker: Obama like. Yeah, this is 12, 2012.


[01:54:36 - 01:54:38] Speaker: I did ask.


[01:54:38 - 01:54:41] Speaker: Do you control the weather?


[01:54:41 - 01:54:42] Speaker: Because it was a. Beautiful day out.


[01:54:42 - 01:54:45] Speaker: You know, and the polls,
the more people come out to vote.


[01:54:46 - 01:54:46] Speaker: Nice.


[01:54:46 - 01:54:49] Speaker: And he kind of laughed it off like,
whatever.


[01:54:49 - 01:54:52] Speaker: But I wasn't, you know.


[01:54:52 - 01:54:54] Speaker: Then you find out about harp and cloud
seating and.


[01:54:54 - 01:54:56] Speaker: I wasn't you, right, right.


[01:54:56 - 01:54:59] Speaker: I wasn't allowed to ask anything
controversial back then.


[01:54:59 - 01:55:01] Speaker: That wasn't controversial.


[01:55:01 - 01:55:03] Speaker: Because we didn't realize
it could be a true thing.


[01:55:03 - 01:55:04] Speaker: Right.


[01:55:04 - 01:55:06] Speaker: But yeah, nothing controversial.


[01:55:06 - 01:55:07] Speaker: Nothing like.


[01:55:07 - 01:55:09] Speaker: Yeah, you were being.
And I didn't wasn't comfortable.


[01:55:09 - 01:55:11] Speaker: But it's not the total opposite.
But it was.


[01:55:11 - 01:55:13] Speaker: On a rock station, so it didn't matter.
It was just it's like.


[01:55:13 - 01:55:15] Speaker: Yeah, there's this, like a talk
radio. Thing.


[01:55:15 - 01:55:15] Speaker: Yeah.


[01:55:15 - 01:55:19] Speaker: It was, but that's the way it is
with some things like I didn't like.


[01:55:19 - 01:55:24] Speaker: And I think there was even on both sides,
some Republicans that didn't want to


[01:55:24 - 01:55:25] Speaker: come on the air with me because. I'm


[01:55:27 - 01:55:29] Speaker: just want to have a candid conversation.


[01:55:29 - 01:55:30] Speaker: Like in some cases.


[01:55:30 - 01:55:34] Speaker: And I want to just have I don't want
to talk about your talking points.


[01:55:35 - 01:55:38] Speaker: Let's just talk about what's in the news
today has nothing, might not have anything


[01:55:38 - 01:55:41] Speaker: to do with politics,
because you can really get to know


[01:55:41 - 01:55:45] Speaker: a person just by having a conversation
about how genuine


[01:55:45 - 01:55:47] Speaker: they are, how real they are.


[01:55:47 - 01:55:48] Speaker: But if you just want to keep going


[01:55:48 - 01:55:51] Speaker: at the talking points,
which is a bunch of bullshit anyway,


[01:55:52 - 01:55:53] Speaker: how do I learn anything about you?


[01:55:53 - 01:55:55] Speaker: How does your audience right?


[01:55:55 - 01:55:56] Speaker: You know,


[01:55:56 - 01:55:59] Speaker: I mean, I had an audience that wanted me
to ask some of the Democrats


[01:55:59 - 01:56:01] Speaker: that came in on the air,


[01:56:01 - 01:56:03] Speaker: more harsher questions,
but they were only going to do like


[01:56:03 - 01:56:05] Speaker: talking points anyway, like,


[01:56:05 - 01:56:09] Speaker: and a lot of them, as soon as they opened
their mouth, stupid came out anyway,


[01:56:09 - 01:56:12] Speaker: so I did have to make them look bad
or press them on the subject


[01:56:12 - 01:56:15] Speaker: because they were just going
to stick to their talking points.


[01:56:15 - 01:56:19] Speaker: So why don't we just let stupid
come out every way and another way?


[01:56:19 - 01:56:20] Speaker: Does that make sense?


[01:56:20 - 01:56:24] Speaker: So if you've seen my Facebook and
people are like, why do you stir the pot?


[01:56:25 - 01:56:29] Speaker: Because you like stupid know
my philosophy is this right?


[01:56:29 - 01:56:32] Speaker: If you let them speak,
they will show you who they are.


[01:56:32 - 01:56:33] Speaker: Exactly.


[01:56:33 - 01:56:36] Speaker: And I don't think that
that's like a bad thing to do. No.


[01:56:36 - 01:56:39] Speaker: And if people want to lose their minds
over whether or not


[01:56:40 - 01:56:42] Speaker: pregnant moms should
or should not take Tylenol,


[01:56:43 - 01:56:46] Speaker: even though I've known that
since I was an infant, I.


[01:56:46 - 01:56:47] Speaker: Was going to say I always knew.


[01:56:47 - 01:56:49] Speaker: That Tylenol was bad.


[01:56:49 - 01:56:51] Speaker: For a long time
since I was at least in my teens.


[01:56:51 - 01:56:54] Speaker: Yes, you. Know,
so I don't know what changed.


[01:56:54 - 01:56:55] Speaker: About that.


[01:56:55 - 01:56:56] Speaker: About out where it's now.


[01:56:56 - 01:56:58] Speaker: Pregnant
women are taking it like Flintstones.


[01:56:58 - 01:57:02] Speaker: And we all need our drugs and oh yeah, and
I well, one of the arguments I got back


[01:57:02 - 01:57:05] Speaker: thrown back at me on Facebook about the
because that's one of the few things that


[01:57:05 - 01:57:08] Speaker: because I am not a drug pusher,
I don't believe in drugs.


[01:57:08 - 01:57:09] Speaker: I don't even believe in alcohol.


[01:57:09 - 01:57:11] Speaker: So like in today's world.


[01:57:11 - 01:57:13] Speaker: Spirits are poison.
But whatever. Right? Do you like. This?


[01:57:13 - 01:57:15] Speaker: The Alex Jones whiskey.


[01:57:16 - 01:57:17] Speaker: And here's here's the best.


[01:57:17 - 01:57:20] Speaker: Part about it.


[01:57:21 - 01:57:23] Speaker: Without the black light,
you can't read it.


[01:57:23 - 01:57:26] Speaker: Oh, so it's all, like,
these crazy things out there.


[01:57:26 - 01:57:26] Speaker: So my.


[01:57:26 - 01:57:29] Speaker: Buddy listens to the show, and he sent us
Alex Jones conspiracy.


[01:57:29 - 01:57:32] Speaker: Whiskey. Right. So continue. Sorry, but.


[01:57:32 - 01:57:35] Speaker: Well, I mean, in a world where you're now
being greeted


[01:57:35 - 01:57:38] Speaker: at the door of gas stations
that never carried alcohol before.


[01:57:39 - 01:57:40] Speaker: All right,


[01:57:40 - 01:57:40] Speaker: that.


[01:57:40 - 01:57:44] Speaker: Are now carrying alcohol with the warning
that says R.J.


[01:57:44 - 01:57:47] Speaker: Reynolds, Philip Morris looks at you,


[01:57:47 - 01:57:51] Speaker: purposely designed
cigarets to be addictive,


[01:57:52 - 01:57:56] Speaker: but doesn't tell you what
that one ingredient is in cigarets.


[01:57:56 - 01:57:58] Speaker: That makes the more addictive.


[01:57:58 - 01:58:02] Speaker: Because if they did that,
they'd have to tell you that the alcohol


[01:58:02 - 01:58:05] Speaker: is also addictive
because of the same ingredient


[01:58:05 - 01:58:10] Speaker: or the Hershey bar, or the Heath bar
and all the other crap


[01:58:10 - 01:58:14] Speaker: they're selling in the store,
it's sugar that makes it more


[01:58:15 - 01:58:16] Speaker: addictive.


[01:58:16 - 01:58:17] Speaker: Why would.


[01:58:17 - 01:58:18] Speaker: And so that's where we can get.


[01:58:18 - 01:58:21] Speaker: On the subject
of the nakedly attack on nicotine and why


[01:58:21 - 01:58:24] Speaker: the more they attack it,
is it really that bad?


[01:58:25 - 01:58:26] Speaker: Everything they attack, I'm like,
that's the thing.


[01:58:26 - 01:58:28] Speaker: I need to be paying attention to it.


[01:58:28 - 01:58:31] Speaker: Did you know, did you know that like,
remember, remember in the 90s when like.


[01:58:31 - 01:58:33] Speaker: Cigaret smoke is bad for you,
we're going to put all these cigaret.


[01:58:33 - 01:58:34] Speaker: Companies out of business.


[01:58:34 - 01:58:35] Speaker: You know the cigaret.


[01:58:35 - 01:58:37] Speaker: Companies did they went bought all the.


[01:58:37 - 01:58:39] Speaker: Processed food companies


[01:58:39 - 01:58:41] Speaker: and then they took their scientists
that said cigarets are good for you


[01:58:41 - 01:58:44] Speaker: and not habit forming. Oh, look,
I think nicotine is good for you.


[01:58:44 - 01:58:47] Speaker: I think tobacco in its pure form is fine,
but when they add


[01:58:47 - 01:58:50] Speaker: all the chemicals in there, so that you
you crave it morning, noon and night,


[01:58:51 - 01:58:53] Speaker: They just switch that science
team over to.


[01:58:53 - 01:58:56] Speaker: Oreos and Chips Ahoy.


[01:58:56 - 01:58:58] Speaker: And like I tell people now, I'm like,
stand in a grocery store,


[01:58:58 - 01:59:00] Speaker: take a selfie,
and I want you to see behind you


[01:59:00 - 01:59:02] Speaker: what percentage of
all that food is processed.


[01:59:03 - 01:59:05] Speaker: And it's like 98%.


[01:59:05 - 01:59:08] Speaker: Well, you know, during Covid
when people were like,


[01:59:08 - 01:59:10] Speaker: you're not ten, six feet back
and you're at the grocery store


[01:59:10 - 01:59:13] Speaker: and you're like, like I'm like,
I think we should go.


[01:59:13 - 01:59:16] Speaker: And you're you're worried about me
not wearing a mask,


[01:59:16 - 01:59:19] Speaker: not six foot back,
but you have all that shit in your cart.


[01:59:19 - 01:59:22] Speaker: Yeah. I'm I'm confused here. Yeah.


[01:59:23 - 01:59:23] Speaker: You know.


[01:59:23 - 01:59:24] Speaker: You're mad at me.


[01:59:24 - 01:59:27] Speaker: For being close to you, but you're getting
a fucking bucket, a ding dong.


[01:59:27 - 01:59:30] Speaker: Seemingly like, who were you? And it's.


[01:59:30 - 01:59:31] Speaker: You know what it is? It's people who.


[01:59:31 - 01:59:34] Speaker: Don't want to take responsibility
for any of the choices that they make.


[01:59:34 - 01:59:36] Speaker: It's everybody else. And they want.


[01:59:36 - 01:59:38] Speaker: And yep, it's your fault.


[01:59:38 - 01:59:41] Speaker: You need to get a vaccine
so that I'm safe.


[01:59:41 - 01:59:43] Speaker: You need to wear a condom
so I don't get pregnant.


[01:59:43 - 01:59:45] Speaker: So my other question is
if you already got the vaccine.


[01:59:45 - 01:59:47] Speaker: What do you have to worry about?
What are you worried about?


[01:59:47 - 01:59:50] Speaker: Oh, this is another conversation
for another day.


[01:59:50 - 01:59:52] Speaker: I would love to stick around, but can.


[01:59:52 - 01:59:54] Speaker: Can we can we end this. Real quick? Yes.


[01:59:54 - 01:59:55] Speaker: I love you.


[01:59:55 - 01:59:57] Speaker: I think you're a great person.
You're a great person.


[01:59:57 - 02:00:01] Speaker: I think
I think that the world needs your voice.


[02:00:01 - 02:00:04] Speaker: So I want to encourage you
before we get off to,


[02:00:04 - 02:00:06] Speaker: you know, do
whatever you can to make that happen.


[02:00:06 - 02:00:09] Speaker: And if I can assist in any way,
I don't need to be


[02:00:10 - 02:00:14] Speaker: anything other than a conduit
for you to be like you.


[02:00:14 - 02:00:16] Speaker: You you got whatever I can do to help
you do what you do.


[02:00:16 - 02:00:19] Speaker: I would love to be. A part of that.


[02:00:19 - 02:00:21] Speaker: You can help me even by.
What it is that I do.


[02:00:21 - 02:00:22] Speaker: I would appreciate it.


[02:00:22 - 02:00:25] Speaker: We'll figure it out.
We'll talk about it. Definitely.


[02:00:25 - 02:00:26] Speaker: Right now, I'm an artist.


[02:00:26 - 02:00:28] Speaker: Yeah. You want to make sure stuff.


[02:00:28 - 02:00:31] Speaker: And I am going to be at covered
bridge festivals


[02:00:31 - 02:00:34] Speaker: Thursday through Sunday this week,
and that's as far ahead as I can think.


[02:00:35 - 02:00:36] Speaker: But after that, we need to talk.


[02:00:36 - 02:00:38] Speaker: Where can people find your stuff?


[02:00:38 - 02:00:40] Speaker: I mean, do like clothes and.


[02:00:40 - 02:00:42] Speaker: At the back Mountain Maker in Dallas.


[02:00:42 - 02:00:44] Speaker: I do need to start
working on the next book,


[02:00:44 - 02:00:47] Speaker: because I'm sick of touting falling
short of God's great glory,


[02:00:47 - 02:00:48] Speaker: which is just a poetry book.


[02:00:48 - 02:00:51] Speaker: But the poetry book is to encourage you.


[02:00:52 - 02:00:53] Speaker: To be you.


[02:00:53 - 02:00:56] Speaker: To accept who you are
and know that God loves you.


[02:00:57 - 02:01:00] Speaker: Yes, there are certain God designed to
so things what works a certain way.


[02:01:00 - 02:01:03] Speaker: Most of the Bible is only to protect.


[02:01:03 - 02:01:05] Speaker: You from hurting yourself or others.


[02:01:05 - 02:01:08] Speaker: Yes, okay. In fact, 100% of
it is all right.


[02:01:09 - 02:01:11] Speaker: But whether you know
that God is with you or not.


[02:01:11 - 02:01:13] Speaker: All right, he is with you


[02:01:13 - 02:01:17] Speaker: and you can be through tough times
and still make dreams come true.


[02:01:17 - 02:01:18] Speaker: And that.


[02:01:18 - 02:01:20] Speaker: So it's a poetry book. It's based on life.


[02:01:20 - 02:01:22] Speaker: You'll find stuff in there
about different.


[02:01:22 - 02:01:25] Speaker: It's, Falling short of God's great glory.


[02:01:26 - 02:01:27] Speaker: Divided into


[02:01:27 - 02:01:30] Speaker: in this world, not of this world
and beyond this world.


[02:01:30 - 02:01:31] Speaker: And for those of.


[02:01:31 - 02:01:32] Speaker: You who know local.


[02:01:32 - 02:01:35] Speaker: Radio, there's like a poem in there
dedicated to this day.


[02:01:35 - 02:01:36] Speaker: She passed away.


[02:01:36 - 02:01:39] Speaker: And of course, I don't know
if anybody talks about this out loud.


[02:01:40 - 02:01:41] Speaker: I don't know if I'm supposed.


[02:01:41 - 02:01:42] Speaker: I don't know anything about it.


[02:01:42 - 02:01:45] Speaker: She passed away.


[02:01:45 - 02:01:47] Speaker: I don't know how many years ago it was.


[02:01:47 - 02:01:48] Speaker: Now 23.


[02:01:48 - 02:01:49] Speaker: I was diagnosed with cancer.


[02:01:49 - 02:01:52] Speaker: So was like 2016.


[02:01:52 - 02:01:55] Speaker: Alcohol killed her.


[02:01:55 - 02:01:57] Speaker: And I watched it.


[02:01:57 - 02:02:00] Speaker: Sadness.


[02:02:01 - 02:02:01] Speaker: And I said


[02:02:01 - 02:02:04] Speaker: to somebody the other day, I've watched
way too many people die of abusing that.


[02:02:04 - 02:02:06] Speaker: More so than anything else.


[02:02:06 - 02:02:09] Speaker: Anything else yet that's acceptable.


[02:02:09 - 02:02:11] Speaker: That sponsors the Super Bowl.


[02:02:11 - 02:02:12] Speaker: Well, okay. So it's important.


[02:02:14 - 02:02:15] Speaker: Nick I don't get it.


[02:02:15 - 02:02:18] Speaker: You can. And it makes so much money
for so many people.


[02:02:18 - 02:02:20] Speaker: My parents just don't. A bar.


[02:02:20 - 02:02:22] Speaker: So I used you.
See I was. A bartender. Shit.


[02:02:22 - 02:02:26] Speaker: Yeah I and I've seen what it can do
to your lives, you know, to.


[02:02:28 - 02:02:29] Speaker: That's why I stopped.


[02:02:29 - 02:02:30] Speaker: Yeah.


[02:02:30 - 02:02:31] Speaker: So that's where we are with that.


[02:02:31 - 02:02:33] Speaker: But that's an
we can have these. Conversations all. Day.


[02:02:33 - 02:02:35] Speaker: I would love for you to come back.
I would you like to come?


[02:02:35 - 02:02:38] Speaker: I would love to come back. This is great.
We did the.


[02:02:38 - 02:02:40] Speaker: And there's so much more
we didn't talk about.


[02:02:40 - 02:02:42] Speaker: And I think you dropped an F-bomb, too.


[02:02:42 - 02:02:45] Speaker: I did, and I hate you too,
because I really


[02:02:45 - 02:02:48] Speaker: I do want to get
really mad now, but since,


[02:02:49 - 02:02:51] Speaker: I have God in my life.


[02:02:51 - 02:02:54] Speaker: I don't feel comfortable doing it because.


[02:02:54 - 02:02:57] Speaker: But also, I also, in the Bible,
there's no list of bad words


[02:02:57 - 02:03:00] Speaker: that you're not supposed to say.
Anything said in anger is.


[02:03:00 - 02:03:02] Speaker: Yeah, I don't think I don't
I don't think I don't think it wasn't.


[02:03:02 - 02:03:04] Speaker: I don't think Saint Peter's
not going to let into heaven


[02:03:04 - 02:03:07] Speaker: because you dropped an f bomb rate
a fish on a Friday or, you know, a


[02:03:07 - 02:03:08] Speaker: reef on a Friday.


[02:03:08 - 02:03:08] Speaker: I mean.


[02:03:08 - 02:03:12] Speaker: There's so much of that
that we can talk to tradition versus we


[02:03:13 - 02:03:15] Speaker: versus Jesus.


[02:03:15 - 02:03:16] Speaker: Tony.


[02:03:16 - 02:03:17] Speaker: There's a lot of that we can talk about.


[02:03:17 - 02:03:19] Speaker: I feel like I feel like.


[02:03:19 - 02:03:22] Speaker: There are ways to live in James that tells
you, you know, not not to talk in anger.


[02:03:22 - 02:03:25] Speaker: Anything you said in anger,
I could say. Mark.


[02:03:25 - 02:03:27] Speaker: Yeah. Angry. And that's now swear word.


[02:03:27 - 02:03:28] Speaker: You know, I think.


[02:03:30 - 02:03:33] Speaker: I think they
need I think we need more voices like you


[02:03:33 - 02:03:36] Speaker: especially like after the whole Charlie
Kirk thing.


[02:03:36 - 02:03:36] Speaker: Yeah.


[02:03:36 - 02:03:41] Speaker: And I think for some reason, I didn't
realize that there is like this this.


[02:03:41 - 02:03:42] Speaker: I'm a I'm a Catholic.


[02:03:42 - 02:03:45] Speaker: I was baptized and all that stuff, but
it seems like there's this, like the war


[02:03:45 - 02:03:48] Speaker: on Christianity, which I don't unders.


[02:03:49 - 02:03:51] Speaker: Which is written about in the Bible too.


[02:03:51 - 02:03:51] Speaker: Yeah.


[02:03:51 - 02:03:55] Speaker: It's, it's it's now starting to like I'm,
I'm starting to see it more.


[02:03:55 - 02:03:58] Speaker: And it's not even some of it's
not blatant.


[02:03:58 - 02:04:01] Speaker: No. I don't even think I,
I don't even think it's people go but.


[02:04:01 - 02:04:02] Speaker: Even.


[02:04:02 - 02:04:03] Speaker: I mean.


[02:04:03 - 02:04:05] Speaker: Oh, I will be here another hour
and let's oh.


[02:04:05 - 02:04:06] Speaker: We got to go okay.


[02:04:06 - 02:04:06] Speaker: But yeah we wouldn't


[02:04:06 - 02:04:10] Speaker: we need to do need to talk about that
because there is something in there


[02:04:10 - 02:04:14] Speaker: where I, there was a discussion
I had on Facebook with the girl.


[02:04:14 - 02:04:16] Speaker: Okay. Which.


[02:04:16 - 02:04:18] Speaker: She was trying to understand.


[02:04:18 - 02:04:21] Speaker: The whole Charlie Kirk thing.
I'd love to talk about it.


[02:04:21 - 02:04:23] Speaker: And I would like to discuss that
with you. Yes.


[02:04:23 - 02:04:26] Speaker: Okay. Yeah.
So maybe next week. Nikki Stone.


[02:04:26 - 02:04:28] Speaker: You haven't been on anything
in, like, a year, right?


[02:04:29 - 02:04:32] Speaker: It was May 1st.


[02:04:32 - 02:04:33] Speaker: It was four days
before my niece passed away.


[02:04:33 - 02:04:34] Speaker: So that's when. They.


[02:04:34 - 02:04:37] Speaker: That's when they thought it was your day.


[02:04:37 - 02:04:37] Speaker: But she.


[02:04:37 - 02:04:40] Speaker: You know, when God lines things up
the way it's supposed to be.


[02:04:40 - 02:04:42] Speaker: I was so busy at the time as I.


[02:04:42 - 02:04:46] Speaker: So I woke up that morning and I knew
I needed to go to talk to my niece.


[02:04:46 - 02:04:49] Speaker: I was trying to
I was doing more shows with my art stuff


[02:04:49 - 02:04:51] Speaker: because I was trying to raise money
to help her.


[02:04:51 - 02:04:52] Speaker: Yeah, I remember, all right.


[02:04:52 - 02:04:54] Speaker: So I like amped up those.


[02:04:54 - 02:04:56] Speaker: I was still working on the radio.


[02:04:56 - 02:05:02] Speaker: I, I and I woke up that morning
and I said, God, something has to give.


[02:05:02 - 02:05:05] Speaker: And then I went,
please don't let it be my radio show.


[02:05:05 - 02:05:06] Speaker: It's exactly what I said.


[02:05:08 - 02:05:09] Speaker: God was
telling me it's going to be a radio show.


[02:05:09 - 02:05:13] Speaker: So when I went in that day,
as shocked as I was when they let me go,


[02:05:13 - 02:05:16] Speaker: when they didn't renew my contract,
that could be another.


[02:05:17 - 02:05:18] Speaker: Yeah. I want to talk conversation here.


[02:05:18 - 02:05:20] Speaker: All right.


[02:05:20 - 02:05:22] Speaker: Entirely. I was offered part time.


[02:05:22 - 02:05:25] Speaker: But I don't need to do it for my ego.


[02:05:25 - 02:05:26] Speaker: And that's the way it was.
Kind of presented. To me.


[02:05:26 - 02:05:31] Speaker: Like I needed to be back on the air,
and I was like, I don't need it, I don't.


[02:05:31 - 02:05:34] Speaker: I did it for people. So, you know,


[02:05:34 - 02:05:38] Speaker: and and if you don't appreciate that,
I can't do it and other things.


[02:05:38 - 02:05:41] Speaker: So at any rate.


[02:05:41 - 02:05:42] Speaker: Yeah. So I needed that.


[02:05:42 - 02:05:43] Speaker: Four days with my niece


[02:05:43 - 02:05:47] Speaker: and she accept Christ on her deathbed
ten minutes before she died.


[02:05:47 - 02:05:48] Speaker: It must be my friend Alyssa.


[02:05:48 - 02:05:51] Speaker: You our mutual friend Alyssa. Oh,
yeah. She's.


[02:05:51 - 02:05:53] Speaker: I call two people girl.
I call. Two people.


[02:05:53 - 02:05:55] Speaker: And to pray that day.


[02:05:55 - 02:05:58] Speaker: One was a guy named Pete
who approached me at the gas pump


[02:05:58 - 02:06:00] Speaker: and said, I think I really need
to go pray for your niece.


[02:06:02 - 02:06:03] Speaker: He said that he won't.


[02:06:03 - 02:06:04] Speaker: You know, he talked to her about Lazarus


[02:06:04 - 02:06:08] Speaker: and all the miracles in the Bible
that are true and are for us.


[02:06:08 - 02:06:11] Speaker: But he said, I felt like
I just need to pray for strength.


[02:06:11 - 02:06:14] Speaker: So he prayed for strength. He left.


[02:06:14 - 02:06:16] Speaker: Alyssa shows up.


[02:06:16 - 02:06:18] Speaker: Alyssa Alyssa said, all the Holy Spirit


[02:06:18 - 02:06:21] Speaker: kept telling me
not to do the sinner's prayer.


[02:06:21 - 02:06:24] Speaker: Will you accept
Jesus as your Lord and Savior?


[02:06:24 - 02:06:27] Speaker: My sister said to me the night before,


[02:06:28 - 02:06:28] Speaker: which I was.


[02:06:28 - 02:06:30] Speaker: Still in denial
that this kid was going to die.


[02:06:30 - 02:06:31] Speaker: I was still begging for


[02:06:31 - 02:06:35] Speaker: I was begging for a miracle, which
I felt a barrier between me and God like.


[02:06:35 - 02:06:36] Speaker: Because I think I knew.


[02:06:36 - 02:06:40] Speaker: He knew I was going to break for that
miracle, like, because I wanted.


[02:06:40 - 02:06:42] Speaker: My family to see.
I want to. See, you know,


[02:06:45 - 02:06:47] Speaker: but there are miracles in everything. So.


[02:06:47 - 02:06:50] Speaker: And anyway, my sister said to me
the night before


[02:06:50 - 02:06:52] Speaker: I woke with whatever happened,


[02:06:52 - 02:06:55] Speaker: but I need her to be okay with it.


[02:06:55 - 02:06:57] Speaker: She knew she was scared.


[02:06:57 - 02:06:58] Speaker: She didn't know where.


[02:06:58 - 02:07:01] Speaker: She was going.


[02:07:01 - 02:07:02] Speaker: It was.


[02:07:02 - 02:07:03] Speaker: It comes.


[02:07:03 - 02:07:05] Speaker: It's it's talk to her.


[02:07:05 - 02:07:08] Speaker: Prays
the sinner's prayer with her shakes and


[02:07:10 - 02:07:11] Speaker: we need to speak one.


[02:07:11 - 02:07:14] Speaker: Word out loud all day long.


[02:07:15 - 02:07:16] Speaker: She couldn't. She was so weak.


[02:07:16 - 02:07:18] Speaker: She was weak that day.


[02:07:18 - 02:07:20] Speaker: I still was in denial
that she was going to die.


[02:07:20 - 02:07:22] Speaker: None of us knew.
She was going to end that day.


[02:07:22 - 02:07:23] Speaker: All right.


[02:07:23 - 02:07:26] Speaker: She did not say any words that day.


[02:07:27 - 02:07:28] Speaker: The only thing


[02:07:28 - 02:07:32] Speaker: she said in full sentence
all day long was every word.


[02:07:32 - 02:07:34] Speaker: Because Alyssa said,
you could say in your own head,


[02:07:34 - 02:07:38] Speaker: you don't have to say it out loud
because I know you're weak.


[02:07:38 - 02:07:41] Speaker: But she repeated every single word


[02:07:42 - 02:07:45] Speaker: of the sinner's prayer out loud,


[02:07:45 - 02:07:48] Speaker: and within five minutes I think it was.


[02:07:48 - 02:07:51] Speaker: She passed away,


[02:07:51 - 02:07:53] Speaker: my mother's side.


[02:07:53 - 02:07:57] Speaker: I walked out because I couldn't
like at the time, I just wanted her.


[02:07:57 - 02:08:01] Speaker: I didn't know I wanted to listen,
to be alone with her, but my mom was there


[02:08:01 - 02:08:02] Speaker: and she's like the only words she.


[02:08:02 - 02:08:05] Speaker: Said out loud all day.


[02:08:06 - 02:08:07] Speaker: That's beautiful.


[02:08:07 - 02:08:09] Speaker: It was.


[02:08:09 - 02:08:11] Speaker: It was.


[02:08:11 - 02:08:12] Speaker: It's all okay.


[02:08:12 - 02:08:14] Speaker: I got to go look at you.


[02:08:14 - 02:08:17] Speaker: Unfortunately, right now there's burritos.


[02:08:17 - 02:08:17] Speaker: Yeah.


[02:08:17 - 02:08:20] Speaker: Waiting for my family
to feed your beautiful person.


[02:08:20 - 02:08:22] Speaker: And you should always remember that.


[02:08:22 - 02:08:23] Speaker: And I can't wait to. Talk to you guys.


[02:08:23 - 02:08:26] Speaker: I can't wait to do this again.
Thank you so much.


[02:08:26 - 02:08:28] Speaker: Thank you for giving me a voice.
Thanks, Nikki.


[02:08:28 - 02:08:29] Speaker: Thanks, Marcie. And.


[02:08:31 - 02:08:32] Speaker: I'm.

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