Episode 80: Ushu Mukelo: Witchcraft, Vaccines, and South African Struggles

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On the side of hearts.

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Open fire will never tire.

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We do not come dry.

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I will try.

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You think dad's a muslim?

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He could be.

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And he's gone. Too.

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Praying to Mecca.

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I mean, you can't judge.

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I mean, you know.

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I don't care.

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The idea of,

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the jihad is jihad.

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Enough.

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so God can accept you at some point.

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And, the Muslims also believe,

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that there is the day of Kiama.

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So it's it's not up to us to judge.

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Yeah, it's the whole of North Africa.

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They also have a lot of Muslim.

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Also Christian too.

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Yeah.

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the Ark of the covenant is.

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and also Judaism.

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The the Jews in Ethiopia

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In Israel? Yes.

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You got to be kidding me.

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No, not a joke. Man.

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The things that we don't know.

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So, I mean, you know.

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If you I don't know if you.

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It has a very long history.

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Ethiopia. All right.

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So you wanted to come.

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Sorry about the cough.

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I can't

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respiratory cough. Right?

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That's that's why I said we should.

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I should be with you so you can quit.

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Quit that. It's not a smoking cough. Okay?

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You know, you.

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I mean. Don't be scared.

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Right.

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I don't care.

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Don't even that. Yeah.

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That's fine. Broad strokes.

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with witchcraft, it's not all bad.

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It's not like, you know,

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Witchcraft is everything.

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So it could be advanced medicine here.

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Oh really? Yes, it could be that. Okay.

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It could also be, law enforcement.

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Really.

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It's a mix of everything.

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So what you do is you do something,

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where it's it evokes

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And once that shadow forms,

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the other person receives an exact copy

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Have you witnessed this? This is real.

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Okay.

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And, you know, I didn't tell me. Tell.

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Remember?

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They know hospitals that my father was one

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to many of these villages. There,

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these villages.

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actually a place called, being Zuni,

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which is the Swahili word for heaven.

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Really? Yeah.

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I remember we talked about infrastructure.

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Yeah. Roads and railways.

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Who owns it there.

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So people just walk for miles.

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these heavy trucks, somehow modified and,

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Correct. To.

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You know, we don't I have,

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tribe does not keep cows.

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to places like me to go and beyond,

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deep inside the leg of people and,

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moves.

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So it's it's something I can relate to.

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How does this how does.

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But do people come there for healing?

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They're witchdoctors.

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They do have results. Yeah.

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our child is suffering from this night.

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And we were looking for that.

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We were told that you guys have the fat.

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polythene bag

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So that's one of the examples.

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But there are millions of examples.

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There are specific plants

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It's gone.

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Easy.

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And these all can run at times.

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You can find it.

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I squeeze the water out of it.

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Take it.

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you buy from, from CVS.

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How does that how why do we not?

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Yeah, I think the problem is,

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everything has become corporate,

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But if you go pick this up from stream.

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Oh, that's dirty.

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It has some jams in it.

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It's going to make me sick.

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to strengthen the immunity. You know it.

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It's just,

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It's just what it is, you know?

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It's self.

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It's so fascinating to me.

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Yeah. Look, I think this is not about,

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Survival, but it's just,

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it's reality.

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You know, in places we have no hospitals,

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Efficacy like it has had success, it has.

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Efficacy.

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I just saw.

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I just saw a statistic that said

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America had ten times,

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America had ten times the deaths of Haiti.

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And and the Haitians only had 1.4%

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of their population vaccinated.

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Yeah. What is that?

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What did Haiti do right.

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Right, right.

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You know what I mean? Yeah.

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Sometimes it's

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Go. I'm not a I'm not I'm not a, I'm not,

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an MD or something.

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to, to somehow

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push the, the country and the body.

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and that will then fight that,

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The immune response.

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Right. Yeah.

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That immune response is it's it's memory.

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It remains in your body.

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Yeah.

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like, know had immunity.

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does not mean that,

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it's going to work like they were.

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I took a tablet from CVS. Right?

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And then tomorrow I see results, you know?

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Now, it takes

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to actually fight against the disease.

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It's different.

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I don't know,

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you know, this is this is not how

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the body works, right?

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And you know how it works.

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And no one listen to you know.

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Nobody would listen.

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It was just, who are you?

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No, we don't listen to you. Right.

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What's your scientific background?

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You're not a firefighter.

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You can't tell me if I'm fire, right?

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Exactly.

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This is not on. It's easy.

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There's no public school around here,

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which is sad.

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It was good.

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I'll. I'll tell you.

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So you wanted to talk to me about,

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the claims

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Yeah, I am.

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of it. Absolutely.

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I'm not a scholar of South Africa.

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You don't have to be. That's true.

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I've been aware of it for a few years.

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I deplore the

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racism

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as it's conveyed in any shape or form.

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There's no I don't

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it's appalling

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to just dislike someone for how they look.

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Right.

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The problem I have it racism is,

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I believe a prejudice is real.

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I don't believe that, like, children

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Right.

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But I also think that

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the idea of racism, as we've been told,

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and has participated in it in the past.

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For thousands of years.

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in this world than there

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Open slave markets in Libya.

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Oh. Yeah. Crazy shit China.

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And slavery is just oppression.

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that's slavery.

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What's going on in Africa is it

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seems like there seems to be some sort of

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fever

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in the last few years.

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now, is it more nuanced than that?

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As I perceive it.

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And so that to me is terrible.

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No, no. Take that. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah.

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So how far off in my in my assessment

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of how I view it as generally as possible.

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Right.

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So so what's happening in South Africa.

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Thousands. Hundreds of thousands. Yeah.

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A couple farmers have been killed.

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I don't think it's a lot.

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I think only like eight of the

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I think it was,

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And this is

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They're the, the other minority.

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Okay.

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Dutch settlers from the Netherlands

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How do you know this?

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1652 all right, keep going.

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Interested in the story.

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that settlers

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these guys are hungry for land.

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They want Dutch. Yes. Yeah, yeah.

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and it it's like three France war resort

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Boer mean?

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The Boer means farmer in, in Dutch.

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Kill the farmer.

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Yeah.

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Now punch a Nazi, killed a fascist.

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Or something like that,

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No, but it's showing.

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in the past.

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expropriation of land,

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oh, where did that start?

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These two groups, the British

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and this and that.

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Right.

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You saw these stupid.

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So they took. Advantage of. It.

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They took advantage of that. Yes.

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And that's their. Home country, too.

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It's their home country. Yeah.

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You know, so I think there was no there

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to me, I

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He's he's Malema. He's the president.

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Socialists and communists in nature.

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Obviously. Yes.

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It seems like a an order.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, well, if it's all gangsta, you know?

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They they.

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they're some good things about.

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There are some good things about the EFF

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has also not worked in a lot of places.

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because we are so communist in nature,

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Or the way, like.

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It's like it's for the whole village,

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So really.

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Do you know what I mean?

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It has a nice job, you know what I mean?

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which is that a nice job.

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He's got to pay for my school fees.

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Do they just assume that?

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I don't think it's an assumption.

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It's expected.

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you know. So you cannot save.

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How do you save then?

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You know, if you own a house,

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You know, how do you do that?

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How do you build wealth like that?

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It it it encourages laziness.

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Really? Do you know what I mean?

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So listen, I don't know, but.

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That encourages it. Encourages it. So.

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because you know, that's what the is.

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Do I think that song is appropriate?

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I think, you know,

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the history of the country itself.

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you know, but,

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so when you have, a country whose,

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Yeah.

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over 70% of the land in South Africa.

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What do you expect of all those,

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Any they're renting out small.

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You know, chanty that a lot of people,

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Just human misery. Correct.

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well,

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I don't care what you think about it,

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So I think

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if you do not have control over land,

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you know that whatever. If it's a small,

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room or,

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plan where they're like, okay,

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I guess, we have to be nice to the boys.

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Yeah.

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My father owned it, I own it.

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This is generational land.

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Why would you want to take it from us?

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Right.

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you know.

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they're not taking care of these farms.

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I don't know, you know.

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So instead of finding a better

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You know?

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What happened with the.

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With the truth and reconciliation stuff?

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Right.

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I think people came out and talked

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And I think it was great.

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But unfortunately, I think, with,

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the issue of,

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distribution

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The income, the income gap.

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The income gap. Correct.

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Because you and I had this conversation.

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About race, it's poverty.

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We're not here to just make things up.

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Yes, I think that's my problem.

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skin color.

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Motsepe.

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He he has a lot of money.

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Probably a lot of control and power to.

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We'll usually position by being poor.

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Correct.

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a lot of them also black.

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white people in the party, too.

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So it's all it's it's all.

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The if the people with, you know, Malema.

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Yeah.

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Some white people behind him.

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Two the one who is singing a guy.

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Yeah I bet. Yeah. He's not poor.

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No he's not.

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I mean I see.

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I, I'm starting to see over

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thing where it's like you have

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Right. And I think it works everywhere.

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I think that's the game.

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whatever you have to look,

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the other political parties

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Right. Right.

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You know, so

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that separate us from everybody else.

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Every other country that is oppressive or.

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Yeah. Do you know what I mean? Right.

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So going back to that point of poverty.

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And I'm not trying to make this up.

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These are very poor white people.

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A lot of them,

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of the border decent.

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They're Dutch.

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I mean, and what they just.

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They squandered.

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and how do you call these houses?

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Wait, when you go camping, you know.

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Like a tent? Yeah.

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And we're not talking about one family.

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but also white people.

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Is anybody. Addressing that?

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You know, they're looking at,

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bringing black folks into some jobs.

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I think the plan was to get.

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Them getting to get it, put them getting.

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Correct. You know,

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I agree, I completely agree. Yeah. Yeah.

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These are very sensitive issues.

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And again,

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So, so.

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So in, in, in a, in, in the United States

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Where right.

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Because this is this is why a

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Yeah.

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So if it.

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Is proportionally.

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Based on merit, you know, based on merit.

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Because let's.

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Say everything.

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You're not the best people.

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and you end up having issues with

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maybe just one section of the society,

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It means that this one is not ours.

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Macdonell or,

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Or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's.

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Is that the same thing?

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Right.

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You know. Holy shit.

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you're not going to get the benefits

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So that's.

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You know, that's. Racism, too.

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In a way.

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It's some form of segregation,

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Maybe not racism.

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how do you get them into

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you can end up with shitty people

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That's my business.

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So that's my biggest problem.

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so if you if you decide today

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The people

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who think

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They're going to get angry.

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like poor.

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I was like,

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I was really fortunate.

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Right.

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You know?

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needs to be conveyed

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or given to people for them to do that.

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Okay.

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Right?

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it doesn't matter who gets the job.

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his white is black, he's Asian.

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Can you move?

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Because somebody told him that his people.

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Would you know, like longer noses.

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Facial structure, you know, physiognomy.

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You're the majority.

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We these guys only 14%.

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First of all, they were not from here.

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They came from several different Asia.

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And at that point,

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There will always. Be.

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In. Human hatred. Okay.

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from a caterpillar to a to a housefly.

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Right?

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What do you feel about race in America?

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Well, race also,

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And it's taken fire, you know, but

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If you really think,

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people of African descent are really hated

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by white people, I don't think today

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Really?

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The Arabs treat, black people like shit.

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Really.

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You know, and I'm not making this up.

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I have friends who have gone full house.

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How's it called it?

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We call them house girls.

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You know,

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You know how. To. Yeah.

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They've gone to a lot of places.

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Oh, man.

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They come back telling us weird stories.

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That was in Oman,

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you know. Really.

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Was that it? Was that in the US?

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No. You know, but

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There is a high chance.

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This.

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And maybe their kids do.

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No one talks about that.

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What about the caste system in India?

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Oh that's brutal.

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You know,

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do you know how they treat black people?

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They don't pay black people.

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Really?

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Yeah, they bring a lot of Chinese to work.

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Tell me what that is,

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We should bring our own.

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Do you need a Chinese guy from.

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You know, What?

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Yeah, he's the best.

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Yeah, yeah, and. Apparently 300 pound.

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So why do you do that.

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and things are better.

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Don't start talking like we in the 50s

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or we in the 1600s, you know,

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I've told you

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this is way better.

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This is not to make this story up.

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Why is it so hard to say that?

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No one talks about this happening here.

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It happens in the.

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Yes, I happen to have a friend of mine.

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I'm not gonna say his name.

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He lives, out in Nanticoke.

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Yeah, he was flying out.

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lady who probably had a name in his mind.

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Was a fucked up name in last name.

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And he did not like that older lady.

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You have to respect elders.

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This lady

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You know?

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But no one talks about this.

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That's how it put it.

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Why is it so?

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You know what I mean?

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Right?

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And I agree, I saw that clip too.

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I agreed with him. Yes. Listen,

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we have,

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80% of, people are from one unique tribe.

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The baby.

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You know, they think, you know,

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At some point they didn't like other.

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And they

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and all that.

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It wasn't based on facts.

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I know the history of our country.

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We've talked about it here.

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And I know that,

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Nobody talked to the Africans about. It.

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You got.

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Yeah.

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Of course, you know,

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they sat on a table

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So the kingdom of.

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Cultures.

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and traditions.

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This is

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Are you kidding me?

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These are two different things.

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and the DRC is sovereign country.

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And this is not this is

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And that's what is happening right now.

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deviate from the story.

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What what what

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It explains it. So it. Explains it.

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You know it, you know it explains it.

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These white people hate us.

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Into a white person who was like.

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I hate you, fuck, you.

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Know. But.

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Not like that.

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You know, we also are not naive.

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I think, I.

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Think, I think the people I think

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It's ignorance and prejudice. Correct?

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There is a lot of that.

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Yeah, they have.

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Very pro-gay.

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And then the Republican had the gay kid

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Right, right.

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Know.

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You know differences are good.

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If you didn't have differences

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Now I'll tell you something.

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You know what the Indians do in Uganda?

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They have a daughter. Right.

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Go stay there.

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Because they don't want the intermixing.

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See that?

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Yeah, you see that?

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Think like if a white.

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Yeah. First of all, every night.

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Yeah.

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Listen, I know a lot of white folks

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They buy land in Africa.

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They mingle with the community.

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These companies are audited.

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Yeah. Yeah.

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Do they really care?

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Why aren't they getting audited?

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It's a culture, you know, it's it's

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These people are just aggressive.

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That is something of the past.

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Absolutely. Yeah. You know,

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so you know what I mean.

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You know, I think twice.

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I hate to say it, but like,

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and in these, in these white men,

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Right.

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Like, give me a break.

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My sister is younger than me.

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she can decide.

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So in your in so in your culture.

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So like if you're at your sister okay.

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Explain it to me.

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Listen. So the men run the show.

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Okay.

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Okay?

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And so if I want land, I want resources.

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Oh, really?

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My big father.

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My father's a younger brother.

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Is my small father mean? Okay. He's also.

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A father. That's.

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We don't call them uncles.

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Uncles just from the mom's side, you know.

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patriarchy in a lot of African societies.

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You should got a boy.

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Fuck that boy. You know, stuff like that.

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You know, they don't care about the boys.

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It's just one tribe that is.

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Oh, yeah. Oh my God. Yeah.

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Know, is.

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Now, what about you guys?

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We're so patrilineal.

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It's everything is you know patriarchy.

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Sometimes things go too far.

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you know, all gangster.

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Life and nurture and.

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Absolutely. But

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that's not how these people treat women.

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You know,

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and she has no say into that.

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there's some that willingly

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You're not going to question it.

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It's just expected.

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It's expected.

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Wow. You know what I mean?

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It comes down to it's like a business.

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you know, the main control, the stuff.

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It's everywhere.

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And I think to some extent,

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I heard somebody explain, you know, time.

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Where, like,

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like, in other words, like, together.

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That's the most amazing thing.

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So one thing I, I come down to,

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Sure.

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But the leadership.

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Still has to be with the men.

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No it's not.

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Yeah.

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You know, so, like, at the end of the.

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Day, is is it an.

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you know, like I

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Yeah.

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Most.

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Throughout the history of the

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It was always the men.

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And the men were were there to.

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Yeah, men can't.

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Be. Yeah.

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you know, there are all kinds of rituals,

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including some purification rituals and.

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What's funny

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I agree with that.

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how I had heard you say that,

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Like a like a which way when she.

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Not know that.

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You know.

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Can you imagine

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That's not for lab work.

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I don't even wanna.

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Know what the crazy thing is.

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It probably works, whatever it is.

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You know what I'm saying?

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Are very powerful.

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You know. I, I don't know why.

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I mean, I do know why.

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There's, there's.

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Just to keep strife, right?

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To keep everybody mad at each other,

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Right.

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The people who.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Right. And once the people like

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Most of the time it's really not that way.

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Yeah.

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To continue division or add new division.

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Yeah.

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It's become one.

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Yeah.

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But now there's

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in 2000.

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Right?

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Because look,

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There is no more oppression.

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There's no more oppression, you know?

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They survive on power and power is

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is best maintained through defensiveness.

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Always. You know.

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What do you call it? Emotional.

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I call it emotional business.

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You know, it's emotion business.

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I think that's what we see every day.

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It's it has nothing to do with reality.

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But they sit in groups of people.

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Oh, I can see that there is.

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The illusion of. Choice.

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Yeah. So I'll text here quick.

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We text him.

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Is it

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Ha ha.

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I don't know about that.

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So what George.

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Carlin said it's the illusion of choice.

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That. That these are your choices.

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And it's.

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And that those two political parties,

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racist Nazi fascist. Wow.

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Because I left,

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the Democrat Party.

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But it's just so my buddy does

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And you know, the,

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So it's all like AT&T,

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Man you have a lot of texting to do.

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You know what I do every day.

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It's exhausting. I take care of people.

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Yeah. Go ahead I'm not focused.

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I'm not focused.

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Yeah.

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Yeah. But only two have the power.

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So either

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Yes, on best to zero and one. Yes.

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Yeah. So,

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Is an illusion. Illusion?

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Yeah. It's an it.

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That's what aggravates me.

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If it really is an illusion.

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But what do you think, though?

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Do you think I get a number?

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I think you're probably right.

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It's an illusion.

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You select them, you're given.

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You're given an America.

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And in a country that is

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It should be everybody. Yeah.

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It should be anybody.

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get out. Totally. Yeah.

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The people I think

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That's always that's always I.

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I will never do work.

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Right?

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what change will I be able to push?

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To make it better?

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Yes. Correct.

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Yeah.

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and maybe they become comfortable with,

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with salary, you know.

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Sure. With or perks, whatever. Yeah.

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And that's not leadership. I don't see,

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I all I see.

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The politicians around here doing

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Right.

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You want everybody to be better.

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I see all these people around here now.

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All they're focused on

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The state reps do it. Yeah.

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The county commissioner does it

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like Donald Trump or Republicans,

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and they're never

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Republican, killed the boar.

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Kill the family.

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See what I mean? Yeah. So they're bad now.

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No one sits and has a conversation.

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We talked about in the other podcast.

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You know.

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It's good for business.

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It makes it brings you more money.

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So you don't want to resolve that problem.

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A lot of politicians do.

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And some folks who claim to be leaders

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Or if I do this and I resolve this, then.

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I have nothing to run on again. Yeah.

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What? Wait, there's no more tomorrow.

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Like racism.

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I can't claim it. Up to it. Yeah.

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If it's resolved. Then.

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You know what I mean.

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So people make up stories

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And, was that like,

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a crime or something?

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Oh, yeah, the professor say.

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That's a problem.

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You you want to resolve war in the Congo?

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You know, I

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The people who are in a position

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Yeah. Because in the money dries up. Yeah.

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So I'll give you an example.

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Let's say there is hunger in a place,

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They feed everybody.

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But then you run it.

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Yeah, no, let's just get some food and.

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sustains your

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And that's very dangerous, bro.

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It's it's led to.

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It's led to a dramatically

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evil.

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Increases in human suffering.

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Right?

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You know, like

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I have I have

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Fly, right? Right.

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There's so much like.

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Farmable land.

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Wouldn't it reduce

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like you're getting all your food local.

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Yeah. I'm a. Huge.

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How much land does it take.

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To have access. Land access and access.

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People want to,

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Weird. You know. Some would say evil.

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because some people survive on that.

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you know, and I don't know how I see

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the suffering of others is, happiness to.

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the 90s was the suffering in Africa.

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And like.

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How did that

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how did that. Become, like.

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Teach them how to how do they forget

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how to grow food?

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Yeah,

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Yeah. Something intervened.

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One thing for sure that I know is I think.

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Handouts can be very dangerous.

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You know, the addiction of convenience.

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I think people,

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if they become very comfortable with,

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Wise, most well.

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Most people will not.

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And I think that's the problem.

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And unfortunately

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Yeah.

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The the money that pays

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50% of that money comes from DC.

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Well, it comes from us.

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You know what I mean? Yeah. For.

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You know, you said but from there you go.

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Yeah. To keep the government running.

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You know, a lot of people,

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It's not about feelings.

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And unfortunately, there are people who,

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Developed an immunity against reality.

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To actually what works.

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Common sense, you know. Hey, when's your,

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when's that event?

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It's going to be on June 29th.

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Need you guys to solidify it yet or. No.

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No, the date is confirmed. Yes.

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So you're definitely gonna be there.

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InshaAllah. What? What type of,

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what type of food?

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You know, what do you do?

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It was pretty good.

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Fresh stuff.

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Yes. And beans and. Yeah.

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Okay. Tell me about.

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So tell me about the land in Uganda.

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So. Well,

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I did I did manage to get something.

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But the paperwork is in the process.

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I have to go back.

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Someone doesn't snatch the land from me.

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You tell me they had to pay off people.

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You find somebody.

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Yeah. You speak,

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so if you.

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Okay. That way.

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sum it up, it's it's decent amount.

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So what are you looking at? So. No.

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You know,

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they are they say it's a three series.

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It's it's enough land.

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You know my place? Yeah, man.

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That's. It's a decent plot of land.

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Yeah, it's a it's enough to start with.

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There is. Yeah.

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So the you know, there is poverty.

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There's a lot of poverty there.

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Because, you know, I

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Six months. Yeah.

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You know, so that's we're looking at.

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And, you know, I'm so, so.

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Would he have to farm?

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Yeah.

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He's some degree like.

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it's in a rural place in the village.

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It's a lot of the, the township.

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So my. Two small goats.

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Yeah. Do you have goats around here?

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It's you know, here.

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No, we. Never had to go buy.

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I've never had goat milk or goat milk.

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Yeah, I've. Always wanted goat milk.

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in Africa. Yes.

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So we. Just did.

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We just bought,

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a goat milk, like, soap and shampoo.

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But it's really good.

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found in a grocery store that are. Yeah.

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Actually I feel better I guess. Yeah.

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I think

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when, when, when

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because tomorrow there's just go back.

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Market means go back and buy more.

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it's everybody else.

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Yes. It's a good thing.

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And that's that's a weird.

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Let's make a deal this summer.

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Inshallah.

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We will all break bread together.

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Yeah. Great.

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You guys bring some food. Okay, let's.

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Just buy the whole. God.

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I'm buying a goat.

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That's fine, but don't worry.

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We get the whole, God. I'm buying a cow.

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No, like I cannot.

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Detest an already good cut up cow.

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It's that. That's half cow. Why?

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But just buy the whole goat.

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Sacrifice it, you know, do.

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Some sacrifice and go to make

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way nicely.

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I would consider. It's not like.

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You see, all the fucking.

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Congolese people sacrifice to the goat.

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I'll bring a club.

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And we'll set up.

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So you do is a funk, you know?

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Oh my. God, you know.

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All right, I know you got to go. Yeah.

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Listen, like, I.

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I we have. To talk about stuff.

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You know what I, I love talking to.

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Yeah, there's no pretension.

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It's honest and there's no.

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You know.

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Yeah.

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new cultures, traditions, new people,

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bring new knowledge.

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You know, you cannot just be you.

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There is a saying,

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in Africa that,

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Okay.

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I want, I want conversations like this,

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you know, with awesome people like you to

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Maybe that'll inspire people to not be

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Yeah. To understand what's going on. Yeah.

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And how to how to, like, make it better.

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Yeah.

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All ships rise with the tide.

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Yeah.

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Look, look like.

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And this is just to finalize.

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But one of my obsessions is that

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It's because of where I come from.

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It's extremely serious there.

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but we did not hate each other.

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No, no, no, no,

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and Emma in South Sudan,

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Oh, he's a surely he's from South Sudan.

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That's a no, I, he's just my buddy.

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things

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It has nothing to do with skin color.

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Sometimes it's just, you know, the

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And that arouses emotions in people.

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It's these against that.

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Is that against this?

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And I don't know.

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Every time. That's how we should say it.

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Yeah. It has to be like that.

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You got it.

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Like, you know,

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people sit there and have arguments.

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The people have to talk.

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Come to an understanding, right.

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That's my yeah, yes yes yes yes yes.

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Yeah, I do not.

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You know, that's not cool. You know.

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So they such parts that. Yeah.

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But then things that are good

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You know.

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You're a feminist.

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Hey I don't know about that. Yeah.

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You look that's what it is.

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The president of the vice president.

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They both have power.

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They both have power.

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But ultimately, you know,

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Oh, yeah. They would love that.

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Oh, yeah.

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I'll make I'll make the meal.

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I'll raise the. Kids.

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They would love that.

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I know a.

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Lot of liberal women.

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Yeah, who. Are like,

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Care of everything, they say that.

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Yeah.

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You hate the patriarchy.

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And you can raise the kids and you can.

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You're like, yeah. Isn't that. Cool?

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It feels good when people confess.

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Sometimes they a lot of.

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You can say it.

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Slip away.

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You know, they're told certain things.

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It's just like,

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you don't know that there's a difference.

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The illusions dissolve.

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Yeah, yeah.

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I think you. Don't sell off truth.

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Right. As long as you keep searching.

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True.

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I finally gave you wisdom, insha Allah.

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Inshallah.

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Three or even more.

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To you all the. Time.

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Audience is crazy.

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All right, man, I love you.

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More to come right?

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Now, than.